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ZF 2023 Daytona 126500

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If ZF wanted to get a jump on the market they should have used the old 11 “gold” maxi case (without 18k/950PT engravings of course). At least that case is 95% close to the new 12 series line..

And no excuse not trying for thinner 12 sub dials either
 
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I would much prefer the old dial in the new case than the new dial in the old case.

In fact, I would do that in a heartbeat if the new case and dial weren't so much bigger. I don't care for the new skinny markers or subdial rings. Especially on the white dial, there is just way too much empty space. The silver subdial rings on the black dial make them look adequately more substantial.

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The white lines in the next pic are exactly the same length so it's easy to see how much bigger the new dial is.
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Making all the cases the same shape and style was a good move IMO. I never cared for the right side lugs being slimmer, or the SELs protruding from the lugs on some models. But I think Rolex went too big on these cases, a smaller increase would have been better.
 
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I would much prefer the old dial in the new case than the new dial in the old case.

In fact, I would do that in a heartbeat if the new case and dial weren't so much bigger. I don't care for the new skinny markers or subdial rings. Especially on the white dial, there is just way too much empty space. The silver subdial rings on the black dial make them look adequately more substantial.

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The white lines in the next pic are exactly the same length so it's easy to see how much bigger the new dial is.
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Making all the cases the same shape and style was a good move IMO. I never cared for the right side lugs being slimmer, or the SELs protruding from the lugs on some models. But I think Rolex went too big on these cases, a smaller increase would have been better.
I agree mate. I think that Rolex were just going for change for the sake of change. Problem is that for the last 10 years, there have been a whole bunch of homage / shitter brands which have made their own ‘versions’ of the Daytona, with subtle differences, and the new Daytona design inadvertently looks a lot like many of these homages.

I get the bigger case works if you’re a fat bugger, of have chunky wrists, but I have zero interest in it. I think the 116500 is pretty damn near perfect. Well, apart from the fact you can barely tell the time on it but whatever. It’s sooo pretty.

Bottom line - if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
 
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Karbon74

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A daytona is on my buy list...
i will stick to the 116500 or maybe go for a vintage YG model

no way I will buy this new monstruosity, even in rep
 
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I actually like the new bezel and hour markers. I wish the sub rings were a hair thicker. Prefer the old case.
 
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I still prefer the 116500 either by CF or BTF. ZF is nice as well but I prefer the SA4130 over the SH if only because it's proven over time.
 
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It doesn't look bad at all. Not that I would ever buy one. Curious about the movement.
Peacock SL 4801 is a 4130 clone from a reputable movement factory. So like Seagull, the movements would be made in a clean environment, oiled and regulated properly, etc.

Those Sugess models are 39mm, like the Rolex 116x. Wonder if they would take a 4130 dial, haha. Add a rep crown and clasp, sand the rehaut and woohoo!
 
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Peacock SL 4801 is a 4130 clone from a reputable movement factory. So like Seagull, the movements would be made in a clean environment, oiled and regulated properly, etc.

Those Sugess models are 39mm, like the Rolex 116x. Wonder if they would take a 4130 dial, haha. Add a rep crown and clasp, sand the rehaut and woohoo!
About the Sugess, I am also contemplating turning it into a rep with a dial crown and clasp...but then I also like it that it's not a Rolex logo. If I can find a nice 7750 Daytona style panda dial without the Rolex logo, I would probably swap it. But it's a tall order as the Sugess dial is really good, apart from the Sugess logo print and font.
 

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About the Sugess, I am also contemplating turning it into a rep with a dial crown and clasp...but then I also like it that it's not a Rolex logo. If I can find a nice 7750 Daytona style panda dial without the Rolex logo, I would probably swap it. But it's a tall order as the Sugess dial is really good, apart from the Sugess logo print and font.
It's an interesting project - it's like making a Rolex Sub with a Ginault. People have done that a few times. I put one together for a member a few years ago.

Dial text can be carefully rubbed off with wax. I removed some BLAKEN text from a dial as I dislike 3rd party vendor names on my fake Rolexes haha. Then maybe find a sticker logo like Ali Express has or some other physical (applied) logo. These are easily glued on.

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Karbon74

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It's an interesting project - it's like making a Rolex Sub with a Ginault. People have done that a few times. I put one together for a member a few years ago.

Dial text can be carefully rubbed off with wax. I removed some BLAKEN text from a dial as I dislike 3rd party vendor names on my fake Rolexes haha. Then maybe find a sticker logo like Ali Express has or some other physical (applied) logo. These are easily glued on.

H4SAKE.jpeg


H4SUDs.jpeg


H4Ses3.jpeg


H4SWqY.jpeg


H4ShR2.jpeg


H4SL9n.jpeg


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Mountain Monsters GIF by travelchannel
 

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This would be a great lemans project ! I’ve spent the last minutes searching for these applied stickers , can only find seiko which is arguably worse that surgess !
 
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