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XF New AP Royal Oak 15202 Releasing Soon!

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you ll find such movement with old style rotor for less than 3 grands on ch24.
so I guess you ll need at least 4k to achieve the complete watch...

Thanks! I am new to this forum and didn't know there is ch24.
 

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Have you ever seen a gen? They do have a gap where case and bracelet meets, in order to let it move a bit..

I have had plenty of gens in my hand. Friends of mine are watch collector. I had the chance to compare my xf 15202 v2 to a gen 15202st and a gen 15202 (rosegold). Both gen 15202 had very, very very, small gaps.I truly believe that AP wants more stiffness at the first links where case and bracelet meet.
 

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I have had plenty of gens in my hand. Friends of mine are watch collector. I had the chance to compare my xf 15202 v2 to a gen 15202st and a gen 15202 (rosegold). Both gen 15202 had very, very very, small gaps.I truly believe that AP wants more stiffness at the first links where case and bracelet meet.

Have you read what several collectors and / or connoisseurs have said regarding the gaps? You can rest assured, you're able to believe that. I can attest to it as well. 15202 do differ in terms of size and amount of presence of said gap. Some have more of a gap, some less. However it's certainly there and let's not talk about or assume what AP wants or not since none of us is AP. :lol: :qtip2:
 

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I have had plenty of gens in my hand. Friends of mine are watch collector. I had the chance to compare my xf 15202 v2 to a gen 15202st and a gen 15202 (rosegold). Both gen 15202 had very, very very, small gaps.I truly believe that AP wants more stiffness at the first links where case and bracelet meet.

Show me a gen with a small gap and I can show you one with a larger one. Variations exist. What you say may be true from the sample size you have encountered. Totally possible, but it does not make the variations false
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But lets not start saying what AP is this or that like an absolute fact, because it is often misleading, as with the case of sunken bezel screws, brushing and such. I own more than 10 gen APs currently, but even then, I can only state my observations from what I SEE and FEEL, rather than trying to establish an official "This is AP, the rest are not" policy, it can cause many members to lose faith in their watches and think that the reps are inferior in ways which they are not. This is not what we want to accomplish here.
 

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Hey, this is not a gen forum, it's a rep site after all. The main point should be whether or not do I like this or that rep. The large gap may annoy me because it doesn't please me aesthetically but not because I suppose what the gen is like.
 
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Have you read what several collectors and / or connoisseurs have said regarding the gaps? You can rest assured, you're able to believe that. I can attest to it as well. 15202 do differ in terms of size and amount of presence of said gap. Some have more of a gap, some less.

The gap and "movement amplitude of the sel" of the xf is a "copy" of the 5402 or older generation 15202, the last generation of 15202, from post 2012 have no such flexible links. This is what makes the visual difference, not the gap size.We in fact showed some pictures several times in this thread to try to explain this difference...
 
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such end link on a 5402 will show a so called gap, but this end link type doesn't exist on a post 2012 15202 on which the endlink is almost not flexible (very few degrees of amplitude)....
 
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The gap and "movement amplitude of the sel" of the xf is a "copy" of the 5402 or older generation 15202, the last generation of 15202, from post 2012 have no such flexible links. This is what makes the visual difference, not the gap size.We in fact showed some pictures several times in this thread to try to explain this difference...
Funny, so the post 2012 gens I've seen and held in my hands personally that had exactly this same, what you call, gap or the flexible end link just like some XFs or at times even more than some XFs must have all been XF's as well just that they were sold as gens. Oh wait.
 

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Funny, so the post 2012 gens I've seen and held in my hands personally that had exactly this same, what you call, gap or the flexible end link just like some XFs or at times even more than some XFs must have all been XF's as well just that they were sold as gens. Oh wait.

on a post 2012 you won't be able to have this "90degree" angle between bracelet and case like shown on the above shot.
in short bracelet doesn't drop straight if watch i held flat from the case. i ll try to do a photo to show better
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This is before 2012 including 5402.
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This is from 2018, but all post 2012 15202 are like this (when they renew the dial and bracelet the end link became "less flexible").
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this end link difference make the bracelet / case assembly looking different and might be seen as a so called gap when seen from a certain angle*.

*not when around the wrist.
 
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Which one would you choose?


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