XF New AP Royal Oak 15202 Releasing Soon!

[Sonofalich]

If you have a screwdriver that fits perfectly as in fully in and no play, the screws shouldn't be an issue

Worth heating up the bracelet, they are using some type of loctite / something similar. Hair dryer on the bracelet for a few seconds or, alternatively use some hot water and dangle just the braclet into it and same effect. Make sure you buy a decent slotted screwdriver set.

Don't buy the multi-sets they're usually crap. Find them individually on amazon.

"Slotted screwdriver 1.2mm" - replace 1.2mm for 1.0mm 1.40mm 1.6mm and then you've got a full set.

The slotted part means the tip is flat, not sharp, so you dont scratch the links etc.

 

[Glock3ns]

Worth heating up the bracelet, they are using some type of loctite / something similar. Hair dryer on the bracelet for a few seconds or, alternatively use some hot water and dangle just the braclet into it and same effect. Make sure you buy a decent slotted screwdriver set.

Don't buy the multi-sets they're usually crap. Find them individually on amazon.

"Slotted screwdriver 1.2mm" - replace 1.2mm for 1.0mm 1.40mm 1.6mm and then you've got a full set.

The slotted part means the tip is flat, not sharp, so you dont scratch the links etc.

I heated mine up because the screwdrivers I had weren't that great. They definitely didn't fit perfectly and that's why I scratched two screws. The screws on this watch are extremely thin

 

[Ben_Stokes]

I heated mine up because the screwdrivers I had weren't that great. They definitely didn't fit perfectly and that's why I scratched two screws. The screws on this watch are extremely thin

Next time you can tape up the watch with thin sticky tape to avoid scratches

 

[legend]

EXACTLY. Or they will blame you if you f*ck up and you need to pay for new links or a whole bracelet (plus shipping) as some member had to do. And this is suppose to be very basic stuff. Shorten a bracelet with screws I mean...

Not all people have "perfect" screw driver set at home and might not wanna buy/order a new set just for this watch.

Resizing the bracelet of any rep is always the owner’s responsibility primarily. If the dealer can resize it for you, it’ll be a favor done.
If you’re already buying a $500 watch, it makes sense to spend $20-30 to buy a good screwdriver for the purpose of adjusting the bracelet.
By asking someone to do a favor for you, you already by default absolve them of any blame associated with the task YOU initiated, which would otherwise not be done if you had not requested it.
I agree with Tobel there, it’s not a good attitude to have in the hobby if you are in for the long run sir.


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[QueTip]

Wouldn't it be easier to ask the TD to unscrew every bracelet screw 1mm before sending, then the damage risk are on them...

Wouldn't it be easier if you just bought your watches on amazon? You must've completely lost it to even openly say this without feeling like a complete retard.

 

[Glock3ns]

So having it for almost a week now. I have to say this is probably one of my favorite watches rep or gen. And I'm really amazed at the 9015 because I'm not sure if I've lost any time throughout; it's been spot on with my phone clock, hopefully it stays like that for as long as I own it.

 

[jasonbaylee]

EXACTLY. Or they will blame you if you f*ck up and you need to pay for new links or a whole bracelet (plus shipping) as some member had to do. And this is suppose to be very basic stuff. Shorten a bracelet with screws I mean...

Not all people have "perfect" screw driver set at home and might not wanna buy/order a new set just for this watch.

Actually you can even request your TD to lubricate and grease your watche/s when u ordered.
Actually you can also request your TD to source gen strap for you too
Actually that means longer waiting time for you and others

 

[Akilles]

Wouldn't it be easier if you just bought your watches on amazon? You must've completely lost it to even openly say this without feeling like a complete retard.

Without calling you any word that may have come up in my mind right now I can only say that I truly hope you some day get a rep with a bracelet that has super glued screws and your perfect 30 USD screwdriver just doesn't work.

I didn't say you should ask the TD to polish and service your watch before sending!! If the screws are as easy as some people say they are to remove with a proper tool, it would take them less than 1 minute to unscrew 6 links 1mm.

Some members even ask their TD to resize the bracelet before sending, why would this be worse or take more time?

I don't own the XF 15202 myself but I sometimes had problems during my 15 years with reps even with proper screwdrivers on some bracelets.

My intention where only to help some members not to mess up to their watch after been waiting months for it to arrive. If that makes me a retard almighty QueTip, then sure, let's call me that.

 

[Akilles]

Actually that means longer waiting time for you and others

That some members asks to unscrewing 6 links by 1 mm with this specific model will takes less than 1 minute/person so I hardly think it will affect the overall waiting time for the whole rep industry significantly...

 

[Tobel]

Without calling you any word that may have come up in my mind right now I can only say that I truly hope you some day get a rep with a bracelet that has super glued screws and your perfect 30 USD screwdriver just doesn't work.

I didn't say you should ask the TD to polish and service your watch before sending!! If the screws are as easy as some people say they are to remove with a proper tool, it would take them less than 1 minute to unscrew 6 links 1mm.

Some members even ask their TD to resize the bracelet before sending, why would this be worse or take more time?

I don't own the XF 15202 myself but I sometimes had problems during my 15 years with reps even with proper screwdrivers on some bracelets.

My intention where only to help some members not to mess up to their watch after been waiting months for it to arrive. If that makes me a retard almighty QueTip, then sure, let's call me that.

You're missing the point. There is nothing wrong with asking your TD to resize the bracelet/remove a couple of links. If they are nice enough to do it then that's absolutely ok. But that remains a favor, not their job. TDs are not responsible for a given model to have a bracelet with tough screws.

However, as Legend eloquently put it, asking someone for a favor by default absolves them of any blame associated with the task YOU initiated.

So asking a TD to resize the bracelet - that you know is tough - and thinking that if they mess up - which you know is a risk - then you could blame them, when all they did was try to help you further and beyond their normal prerogatives, is therefore a very dishonest thing to do.

That is the issue and why you are getting such reactions, not simply asking asking your TD for a favor.

 

[Akilles]

I see that you mean! But if it's only a matter of using correct tools like the mods and super senior members states then it wouldn't be a problem for the TDs right?

Sending 4 watches back on QC for a slightly crocked serial number on the caseback etc like some does, that is imo things take takes time for others and are bad manners.

Whatever, maybe my idea seemed bad for some. If so, I apologize. My intentions were only good

 

[BIONONE]

That some members asks to unscrewing 6 links by 1 mm with this specific model will takes less than 1 minute/person so I hardly think it will affect the overall waiting time for the whole rep industry significantly...

Reads like you would be the type of guy who would complain about loose screws...

anyways - it seems you dont even take into account how many watches a TD is handling over the course of the day. And like others have pointed out - nothing is granted in life - to take it as such is the worst.

 

[QueTip]

I see that you mean! But if it's only a matter of using correct tools like the mods and super senior members states then it wouldn't be a problem for the TDs right?

Sending 4 watches back on QC for a slightly crocked serial number on the caseback etc like some does, that is imo things take takes time for others and are bad manners.

Whatever, maybe my idea seemed bad for some. If so, I apologize. My intentions were only good

Of course it doesn’t. But then if TDS did that and some who don’t have screwdrivers at all will complain because their bracelet has fallen apart. Once you start going that way, you’ll never make it right for everyone.

I hope you got the point now, as Tobel explained yet another time. Expecting your TD to do you a favour just so you could blame it on him if shit hits the Fan is plain wrong, both ethically as well as mentally and shows your attitude.

Like I said, if that’s what you’re after, you’re better off buying your watches on amazon or even better, the boutique.

 

[Akilles]

Like I said, if that’s what you’re after, you’re better off buying your watches on amazon or even better, the boutique.

Thanks for the kind advice but I think I keep buying from TDs as I've done for several years (before Josh at Perfect Clones was the go-to-guy) and buy a gen from Chrono24 whenever a favourite comes up.

 

[QueTip]

Thanks for the kind advice but I think I keep buying from TDs as I've done for several years (before Josh at Perfect Clones was the go-to-guy) and buy a gen from Chrono24 whenever a favourite comes up.

Make sure to ask your seller on C24 to undo the bracelet screws for you. Oh wait, you couldn’t put it back together because you seem to have the motor skills of a slice of bread.

 

[ATHOS]

I like this forum because of a lot of informations about watches not so much about screws or screwing ... if there is a problem with bracelet screws and a TD is so helpful to fix it ... the customer can be happy with the service ...

I like the service of Legend did on my XF 15202 (no problem with screws ... haha)

he did some mods and I couldn’t be happier

 

[Burbizia]

Hello, I just ordered this piece by Puretime.

From I understood, watch is fine as it is, but it would use a whitening of lume (too yellow-green) and trimming of hour hand.
Do you think the whitening of hands could be made by a regular watchsmith?

I read that user Legend is amazing at it. Do you know how much it would cost this kind of work?

Thanks in advance!

 

[gilrob]

Hello, I just ordered this piece by Puretime.

From I understood, watch is fine as it is, but it would use a whitening of lume (too yellow-green) and trimming of hour hand.
Do you think the whitening of hands could be made by a regular watchsmith?

I read that user Legend is amazing at it. Do you know how much it would cost this kind of work?

Thanks in advance!

PM him and ask.

 

[Pdatoon]

Hello, I just ordered this piece by Puretime.

From I understood, watch is fine as it is, but it would use a whitening of lume (too yellow-green) and trimming of hour hand.
Do you think the whitening of hands could be made by a regular watchsmith?

I read that user Legend is amazing at it. Do you know how much it would cost this kind of work?

Thanks in advance!

Yes he is. He did mine.

 

[Akilles]

Make sure to ask your seller on C24 to undo the bracelet screws for you. Oh wait, you couldn’t put it back together because you seem to have the motor skills of a slice of bread.

Boy, you seem to have been dropped one or two time as baby, or do you have Tourettes syndrome maybe?

If you have read anything in this thread there are many members complaining about the screws and how they mess up their bracelet even with proper tools since they use some kind of superglue. I was only trying to help... I don't even own the XF 15202. If you don't like that advice fine.

Not all will like that idea or my "attitude" towards asking a TD to take 1 minute to unscrew 1mm on the screws for this specific model with their perfect tools, expreience and skills like some of us don't have, and those members have written that in a polite and grown up way but they don't call me a retard, completely lost, saying I have motor skills of a slice of bread like you do.

I'm frankly tired of being polite to you. Maybe you are a mod and people will back you up, I don't care. Calling people things that you do is something my 4-year old son already have learned not to do.