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I’m Olso interested, and still the question 000 or 005 and which maker for my first and last pam ?
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XF Factory PAM005 finally out.
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I’m Olso interested, and still the question 000 or 005 and which maker for my first and last pam ?
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Will have mine probably next week and will tell you 
From QC it looks like it is still there:
From QC it looks like it is still there:
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Received my XF 005 today (39 days using China EMS is beyond frustrating, paying top dollar for terrible service). Here are my observations for future purchasers:
Pros:
- The dial is more crisp then it looks in pictures compared to the Noob version.
- The crown pinion is not sunken as much as has been previously reported, at least on my version. CP is only down slightly and is not really noticeable.
- Strap is better quality then most straps but is very stiff (and an ugly oem color).
Cons:
- The lume is not up to the Noob version or older versions of the PAM 111 I own. The lume is not quite as bright and fades quickly compare to my PAM 111's.
- QC was lacking as the strap pins where a different length and the crown guard screws were loose when I received the watch. But I have learned over the years to check all external screws when you receive a replica.
- The glass is very flat with not much of a dome at all and has a lot of reflection. Not sure if this is accurate to oem but I don't think so. I hazard to guess there is not anti-reflection on the XF crystal at all.
- The winding and sound seems cheaper than other Asian versions of the pocket watch movement I have purchased. Time will tell.
- A couple of older Panerai rubber straps are to thick for the XF 005 lugs, not sure if this is a lug issue or a strap issue. Will have to check it with my oem Panerai signature rubber tang strap for fit.
Overall:
- A good overall effort but the lume alone would aim me back at the Noob version if I was to do it again. If I did not have quite a large collection of rep PAMS, I would probably be more impressed with the XF 005 but in comparison the XF version is lacking a bit.
Pros:
- The dial is more crisp then it looks in pictures compared to the Noob version.
- The crown pinion is not sunken as much as has been previously reported, at least on my version. CP is only down slightly and is not really noticeable.
- Strap is better quality then most straps but is very stiff (and an ugly oem color).
Cons:
- The lume is not up to the Noob version or older versions of the PAM 111 I own. The lume is not quite as bright and fades quickly compare to my PAM 111's.
- QC was lacking as the strap pins where a different length and the crown guard screws were loose when I received the watch. But I have learned over the years to check all external screws when you receive a replica.
- The glass is very flat with not much of a dome at all and has a lot of reflection. Not sure if this is accurate to oem but I don't think so. I hazard to guess there is not anti-reflection on the XF crystal at all.
- The winding and sound seems cheaper than other Asian versions of the pocket watch movement I have purchased. Time will tell.
- A couple of older Panerai rubber straps are to thick for the XF 005 lugs, not sure if this is a lug issue or a strap issue. Will have to check it with my oem Panerai signature rubber tang strap for fit.
Overall:
- A good overall effort but the lume alone would aim me back at the Noob version if I was to do it again. If I did not have quite a large collection of rep PAMS, I would probably be more impressed with the XF 005 but in comparison the XF version is lacking a bit.
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Too thick like it won’t fit in? Have you measured the lug to lug with the calipers? Or too thick like the bar is having problems going through? Sometimes I have to give it a spritz of WD40 for the bar to go thru the tube.
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Thick as in screw bar nit going through. Yes, Silicone spray would help. WD40 eats rubbers
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The PAM005 or any steel case 44mm PAM goes great with any strap combo, suit, jeans or leather jacket. Casual or dressy. It’s the most perfect watch imho.
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My first PAM and I completely agree with what johnlogan has said. Such a versatile watch. Took that XF strap straight off and swapped it for a suede number.
