Which ones are gens and why?

[puretime]

Yeah it surely must be difficult! no doubt about it! but it took what, 10 years?

Can't wait for these good cyclops then

It took more than 10 to get the green color right.


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[muiramas]

It took more than 10 to get the green color right.


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Does it have a metallic look under bright lights?

 

[puretime]

Does it have a metallic look under bright lights?

I couldn’t tell any difference between the 2 but the lighting that night was not the best, I will have the gens soon and I will compare


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[muiramas]

I couldn’t tell any difference between the 2 but the lighting that night was not the best, I will have the gens soon and I will compare

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OK thanks. The green is the real test. is should be vivid in all lights, and under spotlights should have a metallic look to it.

The green of the gen is impossible to capture in a photograph, so if the fake looks the same as a gen in a photo it doesn't really mean anything.

Lots of people on the forum obsessing with how the soleil / sunbrush on the dial looks right now. Its not the biggest issue with the rep. I'm fairly sure many wouldn't wear their ZZF / Noob / ARF hulk rep out anymore if they saw a real one in bright sunlight. I hate the term 'instant tell', but this is a big exception.

 

[puretime]

OK thanks. The green is the real test. is should be vivid in all lights, and under spotlights should have a metallic look to it.

The green of the gen is impossible to capture in a photograph, so if the fake looks the same as a gen in a photo it doesn't really mean anything.

Lots of people on the forum obsessing with how the soleil / sunbrush on the dial looks right now. Its not the biggest issue with the rep. I'm fairly sure many wouldn't wear their ZZF / Noob / ARF hulk rep out anymore if they saw a real one in bright sunlight. I hate the term 'instant tell', but this is a big exception.

They do look the same, I will check strong lighting but I doubt any difference.


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[Silver Fox Mulder]

Left LN is gen... the right bezel doesn't line up correctly
Right LV is gen... the rehaut looks nicer

 

[botsyboy]

Left LN is gen... the right bezel doesn't line up correctly
Right LV is gen... the rehaut looks nicer

Already revealed both left watches are the gens buddy.


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[Silver Fox Mulder]

Already revealed both left watches are the gens buddy.


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Ah ok great at least i got one right haha

 

[BIONONE]

Meeting with ARF and ZF in the coming days and see if they can show us some updates

Please ask ZF what's up with their plans for future RM's

 

[LordElrond]

I was right in my thinking (left gens), main tell (for me) was the cyclop

We came to a point where only direct comparison to an identical genuine allows to spot the rep... and with some frankening, good luck! Before discovering RWI I couldn't believe that fakes could get this good

 

[Kayatsu1]

I was right in my thinking (left gens), main tell (for me) was the cyclop

We came to a point where only direct comparison to an identical genuine allows to spot the rep... and with some frankening, good luck! Before discovering RWI I couldn't believe that fakes could get this good

It's also the lighting of the photo. In real life you would see the differences better

 

[puretime]

Please ask ZF what's up with their plans for future RM's

They are still working on it, the RM011, too bad it took already 3 years haha

 

[QueTip]

They are still working on it, the RM011, too bad it took already 3 years haha

What are their upcoming projects? There anything worth mentioning at this point or is it gonna be a long way to go until then?

 

[puretime]

What are their upcoming projects? There anything worth mentioning at this point or is it gonna be a long way to go until then?

Regarding RMs? Nothing new atm and they will release the RM035-02 in different color NTPT versions.


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[QueTip]

Regarding RMs? Nothing new atm and they will release the RM035-02 in different color NTPT versions.


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Yeah, regarding RM. Thanks for that update.

 

[pwo]

Most of you got it right, the left ones are gen and it is the Noob V11 preview, they might still fix something before releasing.

Meeting with ARF and ZF in the coming days and see if they can show us some updates

So this is the father version of noob i was waiting for. Not like the youth they introduced earlier.

Btw. Thank you for the pictures. And glad that come closer to big noob this year.

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[puretime]

So this is the father version of noob i was waiting for. Not like the youth they introduced earlier.

Btw. Thank you for the pictures. And glad that come closer to big noob this year.

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I have seen a few makers subs already and they all have some minor flaws. I gave them all the details and hopefully they can make them right before releasing.


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[diamant]

puretime
Thanks for this. Any chance to say what movement they will use? Vr3135 or the noob sa3135 thanks.

 

[Kayatsu1]

I have seen a few makers subs already and they all have some minor flaws. I gave them all the details and hopefully they can make them right before releasing.


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Hey Angus, I would like to ask you two quick questions since nobody better than you could answer them:
1) Why all the big makers are doing Sub C only now that they are going to be updated?
2) Do you think that this improved attention to details is because there is now a strong competition? Or it can be explained by something else?

 

[puretime]

puretime
Thanks for this. Any chance to say what movement they will use? Vr3135 or the noob sa3135 thanks.

Noob will be still using SA3135 since they have a contract with the movement supplier.

Hey Angus, I would like to ask you two quick questions since nobody better than you could answer them:
1) Why all the big makers are doing Sub C only now that they are going to be updated?
2) Do you think that this improved attention to details is because there is now a strong competition? Or it can be explained by something else?

1. Best selling watch model among all reps. Money driven

2. Of course man, the history told us that if you want to share the pie, you need to have something special.