Which movements suck?

[piratedzeus]

WTF? I typed that and looked at it in the preview window. But I knew you were joking and it seemed over the top so I made the post as you see it now. Note no edit marker. Very strange. PHP SUCKS!

Anyway I think they're decent watches. That always causes a stir with some people. But they are usually basing their opinions on the one model they owned. But I have had about 10 Daytonas pass through my hands over the years including one gen.Regardless of the number of gears I feel that if they are maintained and the chronos are used as they should be then the 7750 is a reliable movement. But that's not what happens. People let the chronos run all the time. Primarily because they hate seeing the big hand sitting still. If they want the big hand moving they need to get a non chrono watch. I might add that the gen I had was the only one that ever blew up. Go figure. :shock:

Sure. .......


the problem with the seconds @ six failing has nothing to do with running the chronos... because the seconds are running all the time...!

 

[sconehead]

:wink: no hard feelings...

 

[takashi]

It's really the extra gears that's holding back this movement. I have tried to disabled it (this makes second hand not working.... not recommended) and the movement runs like charm.

Anyway, I have yet to find dried powdered Graphite lubricant in Singapore. Anyone has pointers?

 

[fakemaster]

@Pd. Maybe you're right. All I have to go on is my experiences. All I know is that I have have touched way more of these than the average buyer has and I have never experiencd one problem when following a certain regimen.

 

[piratedzeus]

It's really the extra gears that's holding back this movement. I have tried to disabled it (this makes second hand not working.... not recommended) and the movement runs like charm.

Anyway, I have yet to find dried powdered Graphite lubricant in Singapore. Anyone has pointers?

Why not order from ebay.com ?

 

[takashi]

Any links for that one? Is there recommended brand? All the same?

 

[piratedzeus]

I don't know, but a search showed up lots of different brands.

 

[sconehead]

Will any of these do? http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... +lubricant

 

[fakemaster]

That is a good link. You know I would avoid the spray. It says that it is free from chlorine, fluorine (CKW/FCKW), PCB, lead and other contaminants, but using sprays is generally not a good idea.

 

[coling]

Hey Fakey,
You say 'by following a certain routine', are there any maintenance / servicing links or tips on this board or others describing how to service. & what lube do you use or is it a trade secret.
Thanks Col

 

[fakemaster]

I'm sure opinions vary on that. But when you get it you immediately have it serviced. Then only use the chronos when it is necessary. Never leave them running all the time. Then you wash rinse and repeat every year. There is one more thing I do but to some it would seem a little odd so I'll just skip that.

 

[coling]

Surely nothing you could do would be considered a little odd?

 

[sconehead]

He polishes them with a dead hamster he got from the mods/admins??? :shock:

 

[fakemaster]

[think:1zff1j3f]Hmmmm. I am going to have to look into this Hamster thing.[/think:1zff1j3f]

What I do is three months after the first service I service it again. Think of it like the transmission in a car.

 

[coling]

I think the hamster hair gets stuck in the gearing :lol:

Does the gearing shed leaving filings? If so : being 12000 kilometers away from you & $45 Australian dollars for each service + service fees, could I not simply open the back & spray some [light] compressed air in then wash & lube. Or do you fill the casing with transmission oil. :mrgreen:

 

[fakemaster]

Yes. Every one I opened a few months down the road had something in it. Could have been Hamster. Compressed air won't do it because it's in the oil too.

 

[sconehead]

I have a PAM 111 that's hamster powered. Should I get it serviced/lubed up? How much does seanf charge for this service anyway? 8)

 

[fakemaster]

I thought he was a farm animal specialist. Maybe I am confusing him with someone else.

 

[Timmy!]

found this reference borrowed from Keyhole



Asian 21j
This is one of the most common automatic movements. There are many versions of this movement. Most have proven to be reliable and affordable alternatives to the ETA version. Ticks at 21,600bph.

Asian 7750
This is a chronograph movement that is up for much debate. Has subdials at 12, 9, & 6 that dictate 30 minute counter, running seconds , and12 hours counter respectively. Reliabilityis constantly up for debate, but the general consensus is that if the watch has running seconds at 9, and is well maintained, you will have a replica that will be reliable. The number one rule with an Asian 7750 is to NEVER change the date while the time is between 10 o’clock & 2 o’clock. Also never reset the chronos while they are running. Both actions may cause damage to the movment.

The 7750 with seconds running at 6 is generally the same as the running seconds at 9 version, with an additional module that allows for the seconds to run on the 6 o’clock subdial. This movement is not very reliable, and you should proceed with caution should you decide to purchase a replica with this version.

Swiss 7750
This movement has become very expensive as of late and is not being offered in many replicas anymore due to the price increase. However, this is a great movement and far more reliable than the Asian version. Buy with confidence.

Asian 7753
Similar to the 7750 in that it is an automatic chronograph movement. Subdials are located at 3, 6 & 9. Same issues with reliability.



Asian 2824-2 Copy
A newer movement that has only recently hit the market. This is similar to the 21j, but it beats at the faster and more accurate to gen, 28,000bph.


Manual Wind

ETA 6497-1
This is a handwind movement that is commonly found in Panerai replicas. Another excellent movement.

Asian 6497-1
The ETA versions Asian couterpart. Reliable, but some versions are inaccurate to the genuine. (i.e Missing swan neck). There is an Asian version that contains the swan neck as well.

I like this! Way to cut through the crap!

 

[tenshin2002]

This thread is hilarious! A must read!
:lol: