Ive seen tons listed....well maybe not tons, but which ones are so bad I should save the time and flush the money.
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Which movements suck?
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One? There are many Asian movements. Mostly good.mickeypro said:
The old Asian 7750 (21600vph) was pretty ratty, too.
Pugwash said:
Have to disagree with you a little bit there Pug. Near the end of its life, I was noticing that complaints on the 21k version had become pretty rare, as I saw very few complaints posted about it. Although the 28k unit is a far nicer engine, I have seen a resurgence in the number of failures in these units since its release (I know you can count yourself among those that have experienced this). For sure 1st gen 7750 were junk, but I think the 2nd gen 21k version was not that bad at all, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a watch with one in it.
7750 with seconds at "six". I had to return two of these watches!!!!!!
No more Seconds at Six for this guy.
No more Seconds at Six for this guy.
Its a real shame they can't get the second at 6 right, a lot of the nicer looking watches are set up that way... the price we pay i guess, or the price we don't pay rather
I too have heard numerous problems with this movement, but I would say that if you don't run the chronos that often, you should be safe... Or at least that's the theory...
Painful Bowel movements suck....
Man, I really contribute a lot of great knowledge to this board.. don't I?
Man, I really contribute a lot of great knowledge to this board.. don't I?
Beside runnign second at 6, what about the sub-dial layout like the 3-6-9 (eg: daytona) and 6-9-12 (eg: Tag Link) Will they play any role on the 7750 reliability?
There seem to be very few 7750 Chrono watches which DONT have seconds at 6.
And how about this one?
http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?m ... 0058461899
It does have seconds at 6, but only has two subdials instead of three.
And how about this one?
http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?m ... 0058461899
It does have seconds at 6, but only has two subdials instead of three.
As far as the Asian 7750 goes, no matter which you get, do NOT use the date quickset unless the hour hand is set at 6:00. If you change the date with the hour hand at 12:00, or near it, you stand a chance of breaking the date advance mechanism.
found this reference borrowed from Keyhole
Asian 21j
This is one of the most common automatic movements. There are many versions of this movement. Most have proven to be reliable and affordable alternatives to the ETA version. Ticks at 21,600bph.
Asian 7750
This is a chronograph movement that is up for much debate. Has subdials at 12, 9, & 6 that dictate 30 minute counter, running seconds , and12 hours counter respectively. Reliabilityis constantly up for debate, but the general consensus is that if the watch has running seconds at 9, and is well maintained, you will have a replica that will be reliable. The number one rule with an Asian 7750 is to NEVER change the date while the time is between 10 o’clock & 2 o’clock. Also never reset the chronos while they are running. Both actions may cause damage to the movment.
The 7750 with seconds running at 6 is generally the same as the running seconds at 9 version, with an additional module that allows for the seconds to run on the 6 o’clock subdial. This movement is not very reliable, and you should proceed with caution should you decide to purchase a replica with this version.
Swiss 7750
This movement has become very expensive as of late and is not being offered in many replicas anymore due to the price increase. However, this is a great movement and far more reliable than the Asian version. Buy with confidence.
Asian 7753
Similar to the 7750 in that it is an automatic chronograph movement. Subdials are located at 3, 6 & 9. Same issues with reliability.
Asian 2824-2 Copy
A newer movement that has only recently hit the market. This is similar to the 21j, but it beats at the faster and more accurate to gen, 28,000bph.
Manual Wind
ETA 6497-1
This is a handwind movement that is commonly found in Panerai replicas. Another excellent movement.
Asian 6497-1
The ETA versions Asian couterpart. Reliable, but some versions are inaccurate to the genuine. (i.e Missing swan neck). There is an Asian version that contains the swan neck as well.
Asian 21j
This is one of the most common automatic movements. There are many versions of this movement. Most have proven to be reliable and affordable alternatives to the ETA version. Ticks at 21,600bph.
Asian 7750
This is a chronograph movement that is up for much debate. Has subdials at 12, 9, & 6 that dictate 30 minute counter, running seconds , and12 hours counter respectively. Reliabilityis constantly up for debate, but the general consensus is that if the watch has running seconds at 9, and is well maintained, you will have a replica that will be reliable. The number one rule with an Asian 7750 is to NEVER change the date while the time is between 10 o’clock & 2 o’clock. Also never reset the chronos while they are running. Both actions may cause damage to the movment.
The 7750 with seconds running at 6 is generally the same as the running seconds at 9 version, with an additional module that allows for the seconds to run on the 6 o’clock subdial. This movement is not very reliable, and you should proceed with caution should you decide to purchase a replica with this version.
Swiss 7750
This movement has become very expensive as of late and is not being offered in many replicas anymore due to the price increase. However, this is a great movement and far more reliable than the Asian version. Buy with confidence.
Asian 7753
Similar to the 7750 in that it is an automatic chronograph movement. Subdials are located at 3, 6 & 9. Same issues with reliability.
Asian 2824-2 Copy
A newer movement that has only recently hit the market. This is similar to the 21j, but it beats at the faster and more accurate to gen, 28,000bph.
Manual Wind
ETA 6497-1
This is a handwind movement that is commonly found in Panerai replicas. Another excellent movement.
Asian 6497-1
The ETA versions Asian couterpart. Reliable, but some versions are inaccurate to the genuine. (i.e Missing swan neck). There is an Asian version that contains the swan neck as well.
Mickey. Nice write up. Just one comment. We really don't have an Asian 7753. It's just a modded 7750.
If we had a true 7753 would wouldn't have the recessed date wheel problems.
If we had a true 7753 would wouldn't have the recessed date wheel problems.
hey Trevor... I'll take credit only for finding it, but Keyhole put together the time and effort