M.R.Schmidt
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+1Hmm, now this is getting a little hard to follow....especially after 6 beers. Anyone care to post a quick summary?
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Welcome to The Brig sgthuan
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I don't know about mentally ill, but definitely criminal. Scary to think that he has people's lives in his hands.
M.R.Schmidt
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Sorry, I was busy last couple days so I couldn't answer some of the claims here. Some of them were true and some were unreasonable IMO (you might be disagreed with them of course).
- I did send [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] a dummy watch
- I did use haisenberg address --> I said sorry, I didn't think straight at that time. Like I said I was mad! whatever you called me
- I did scam netsub, I did what I did and I said sorry
Now, what I mean unreasonable is this:
- So I and everybody here including [MENTION=42327]Raddave[/MENTION] and [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] know from the beginning "I scammed the guy!" I admitted it! And [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] expected me to send him the PAM 029 (half broken but not fully broken). I did ask him in case I really sent him the PAM 029, would he return it back to me after I refunded him? He didn't answer me that --> So [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] and haisenberg make me confused at the definition of "scam", I have to refund your money, and you still want my watch? (which costs me $500)? Will the mods here make netsub return the watch to me if he gets his money back? I highly doubt it? [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] made it clear from emails he sent me couple times that he expected the PAM 029 (he even thinks the watch working fine)) and expect his money back.
- second, I never ever scam strodda for fixing the watch. I swear to GOD it was broken. it is too long to tell the whole story again but this is the fact, he charged me $60 to fix a gear, and it came back broken (keyless problem).
- I did send [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] a dummy watch
- I did use haisenberg address --> I said sorry, I didn't think straight at that time. Like I said I was mad! whatever you called me
- I did scam netsub, I did what I did and I said sorry
Now, what I mean unreasonable is this:
- So I and everybody here including [MENTION=42327]Raddave[/MENTION] and [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] know from the beginning "I scammed the guy!" I admitted it! And [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] expected me to send him the PAM 029 (half broken but not fully broken). I did ask him in case I really sent him the PAM 029, would he return it back to me after I refunded him? He didn't answer me that --> So [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] and haisenberg make me confused at the definition of "scam", I have to refund your money, and you still want my watch? (which costs me $500)? Will the mods here make netsub return the watch to me if he gets his money back? I highly doubt it? [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] made it clear from emails he sent me couple times that he expected the PAM 029 (he even thinks the watch working fine)) and expect his money back.
- second, I never ever scam strodda for fixing the watch. I swear to GOD it was broken. it is too long to tell the whole story again but this is the fact, he charged me $60 to fix a gear, and it came back broken (keyless problem).
The whole new thing is the fact that I put haisenberg info on the package instead of my info. It is my bad, I got it. I told haisenberg if he wants to expose my info to get even, that is fine with me.
About the dummy watch, it is part of the scam and I didn't expect it to be a surprise or a new development at all. If anyone think that a buyer should get what he paid for and get refunded. Then explain the "scam" definition for me.
About the dummy watch, it is part of the scam and I didn't expect it to be a surprise or a new development at all. If anyone think that a buyer should get what he paid for and get refunded. Then explain the "scam" definition for me.
Ok to prove that I didn't scam strodda and other watchsmith, I can give you the phone number of the watch store. You can call and ask them yourself about the broken watch. They still have the watch there with an estimate of $395. If you want a document of their estimate, I can ask them to print out the receipt. No problem.
The reason I asked others to hook me up with a watchsmith was I want to have more options in choosing a watchsmith. Katt told me $80 but he clearly said he doesn't fix ASIAN 2893 which could be in this PAM 029. So i was kind of worried if he can fix it. If you want proof of our communication, I can copy and paste it here.
I just want to add a really quick point in here. Heisenberg has more than 100+++ watches on hand. He made it clear that he had it serviced 6 months ago and barely touched it. (how can you wear 100+++ watch) and from the pictures he sent me, the PAM 029 was not in the winder! meaning it just sat there untouched for 6 months.
What i'm getting at is the fact that you pick the watch up, shake it a few times and its hands run DO NOT translate to the fact that it works fine under normal working condition. Am I correct here?
For the future sellers and heisenberg, if you want to sell something, at least wear it or put it in the winder for at least 5-7 days to make sure it works before you sell it.
Heisenberg got the watch back the first time I complained the hands stop, he did admit the hands touched each other! Did I make that up too [MENTION=35730]Heisenberg[/MENTION]? and he said he tested it for couple days to make sure it works fine. Did you actually wear it or just lay it on your counter for couple days? How can you know it is working fine under normal condition if you just lay it on the counter for 3 days? And now you come back and call me scam strodda! I admitted what I did and I will not take the blame I never did.
What i'm getting at is the fact that you pick the watch up, shake it a few times and its hands run DO NOT translate to the fact that it works fine under normal working condition. Am I correct here?
For the future sellers and heisenberg, if you want to sell something, at least wear it or put it in the winder for at least 5-7 days to make sure it works before you sell it.
Heisenberg got the watch back the first time I complained the hands stop, he did admit the hands touched each other! Did I make that up too [MENTION=35730]Heisenberg[/MENTION]? and he said he tested it for couple days to make sure it works fine. Did you actually wear it or just lay it on your counter for couple days? How can you know it is working fine under normal condition if you just lay it on the counter for 3 days? And now you come back and call me scam strodda! I admitted what I did and I will not take the blame I never did.
Check out https://replicawatchrepair.com They are in Chicago. I have not used them but others have. What movement is it exactly? I thought the 029 has an Asian or ETA 2836-2 with GMT module. $395 is more then a brand new ETA 2836 would cost with installation.
Thank you for your info. To be honest, i am desperate to fix it. I don't mind paying reasonable amount to fix it and i will.
About the movement, i have no idea but the genuine PaM 029 has ETA 2893. So i thought this would have the same, i might be wrong.
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You really just don't get it.
The watch stopped overnight when you first received it, because you were winding the crown 2-3 times instead of 20-30 times; it never built up enough power reserve to run through the night. Once it's at least half wound up, wearing it daily will should keep it running. Before you sent it back to me, you told me it would not wind, and a watchsmith said it needed $395 in repairs. I told you then it was a rip off as a brand new Swiss ETA movement would be less. And I knew it was winding and running fine when I first sold it to you.
When I inspected it, yes I found minimal contact between the second hand and minute hand, which only caused it to stop when it was already out of power reserve. And I fixed it. And yes I left it on the counter to run (changing positions every 6-12 hours) to check the power reserve on a full wind - I gave the crown 50 full turns. It ran for about ~ 43 hours and kept almost perfect time. How could I check the power reserve if I were wearing it, or put it on a winder ? That would defeat the whole purpose of assessing the movement's power reserve. And I made sure when it was exhausted, the hands didn't stop over each other.
When you received it back from me, you told me it was working fine, including the keyless and which I always check after reinstalling the stem.
Two weeks thereafter you email me saying it suddenly stopped. You seem to think that is my fault. Maybe you treated it like the 425 junker you sent netsub ? ... you know, the one with no crystal and missing parts.
At that point I facilitated getting it fixed by Strodda. He turned it around in 2 weeks - lightening fast among forum watchsmiths - and charged you a pittance for the work which involved a partial tear down to replace an Asian gear (4th in train) that failed. You complained miserably about the $53 he charged you. I guarantee Vac, Kat, or someone else would have been a hell of a lot more. The gear was working fine when you got it from me, so either it broke on it's own (happens with Asian clone movements) or you dropped or otherwise abused it, resulting in damage. You said you were so careful with it - were you careful with the 425 ?
I never had the watch again after Strodda fixed it. You sent extremely rude messages re: keyless issue - including numerous anorectal references and bizarre racial slurs - and burned your bridges with both Strodda and I. Either of us could have reset the keyless for you, for free, had you not been such a jerk about it. If there was even an issue.
As far as the watch you mailed after forging my info as the return address, you sent that out before being banned to the Brig - I have the tracking with acceptance date to confirm. So you went beyond scamming him by selling him a 029 you claimed to Strodda and I was partially broken, but did not acknowledge/disclose in the sales listing... you intentionally mailed him a completely different, fubar'd watch. It has nothing to do with having him wanting a refund and whether he'd return the faulty watch! If he actually got the 029 he paid for, and the only issue was this purported keyless issue, he could have fixed it in Israel for a small amount. I suspect you were planning to blame the wrong watch being sent on me somehow, as some type of revenge since you hold me responsible for the problems that this piece had had in your possession.
Anyway. I think it's time you depart from RWI. You don't even deserve to have posting privileges here in the Brig. You're lucky I'm a nice guy and don't post your personal info here, or file a mail fraud complaint with USPS.
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The watch stopped overnight when you first received it, because you were winding the crown 2-3 times instead of 20-30 times; it never built up enough power reserve to run through the night. Once it's at least half wound up, wearing it daily will should keep it running. Before you sent it back to me, you told me it would not wind, and a watchsmith said it needed $395 in repairs. I told you then it was a rip off as a brand new Swiss ETA movement would be less. And I knew it was winding and running fine when I first sold it to you.
When I inspected it, yes I found minimal contact between the second hand and minute hand, which only caused it to stop when it was already out of power reserve. And I fixed it. And yes I left it on the counter to run (changing positions every 6-12 hours) to check the power reserve on a full wind - I gave the crown 50 full turns. It ran for about ~ 43 hours and kept almost perfect time. How could I check the power reserve if I were wearing it, or put it on a winder ? That would defeat the whole purpose of assessing the movement's power reserve. And I made sure when it was exhausted, the hands didn't stop over each other.
When you received it back from me, you told me it was working fine, including the keyless and which I always check after reinstalling the stem.
Two weeks thereafter you email me saying it suddenly stopped. You seem to think that is my fault. Maybe you treated it like the 425 junker you sent netsub ? ... you know, the one with no crystal and missing parts.
At that point I facilitated getting it fixed by Strodda. He turned it around in 2 weeks - lightening fast among forum watchsmiths - and charged you a pittance for the work which involved a partial tear down to replace an Asian gear (4th in train) that failed. You complained miserably about the $53 he charged you. I guarantee Vac, Kat, or someone else would have been a hell of a lot more. The gear was working fine when you got it from me, so either it broke on it's own (happens with Asian clone movements) or you dropped or otherwise abused it, resulting in damage. You said you were so careful with it - were you careful with the 425 ?
I never had the watch again after Strodda fixed it. You sent extremely rude messages re: keyless issue - including numerous anorectal references and bizarre racial slurs - and burned your bridges with both Strodda and I. Either of us could have reset the keyless for you, for free, had you not been such a jerk about it. If there was even an issue.
As far as the watch you mailed after forging my info as the return address, you sent that out before being banned to the Brig - I have the tracking with acceptance date to confirm. So you went beyond scamming him by selling him a 029 you claimed to Strodda and I was partially broken, but did not acknowledge/disclose in the sales listing... you intentionally mailed him a completely different, fubar'd watch. It has nothing to do with having him wanting a refund and whether he'd return the faulty watch! If he actually got the 029 he paid for, and the only issue was this purported keyless issue, he could have fixed it in Israel for a small amount. I suspect you were planning to blame the wrong watch being sent on me somehow, as some type of revenge since you hold me responsible for the problems that this piece had had in your possession.
Anyway. I think it's time you depart from RWI. You don't even deserve to have posting privileges here in the Brig. You're lucky I'm a nice guy and don't post your personal info here, or file a mail fraud complaint with USPS.
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I can only assume when he got the inevitable PM that the wrong watch was sent, he would either ignore it or point him to me as the one who sent it, as some type of revenge for the problems he had with the watch he bought from me.
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I agree with you 100% [MENTION=35730]Heisenberg[/MENTION]. I just don't see how he thought that mailing it from the east coast with your return address from the Southwest would have fallen back upon you. I find no logic in this, even if he was trying to frame you...frame you for what? His paranoid imagined slight that you did not give him a fully wound watch? LOL I don't get that as you did not have possession of the watch, and the last trusted point of possession/activity was when Strodda shipped it back to him...no proof it ever went back your direction, and he posted pictures with his handwritten info as required so it shows that he had possession, or at least the metadata shows it was taken in Georgia, nowhere near you, so how does that make sense? As you said, a simple check of the tracking shows all activity. I guess the mentality of a scammer is beyond my ability to understand. [MENTION=13090]sgthuan[/MENTION], I'm going to call you out as I've tried to be nice and see there may have been redemption possible but your bullshit is grating on my nerves...post a copy of the repair estimate with your personal information blacked out. Please, post the estimate, not the watchsmith's phone number as I doubt that the watchsmith would appreciate a bunch of calls from forum members inquiring about your watch, and probably would not wish to be associated with this whole mess. I ask this so you can show that at least some of what you say can be believed, because as of now I don't believe a word of what you say...I want to give benefit of the doubt, but I'm seeing nothing as of now.
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Ok fair enough, i will go to the store to ask them print out the estimate. I will post it as soon as i have it.
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I have a total of 2 watch as of now, one BK sub and that heisenberg PAM 029. I am not a watch savvy guy like strodda and heisenberg and some guys here, i get it. I am a pharmacist, most of you know it by now. So you can imagine what my job is all about (not banging my watch like a construction guy!). Now when i see the watch is not working, something got stuck inside, it is not working! And i don't wanna mess with it. Heisenberg expected me to know at his level? Or should i be a doctor like him too?
The fact is the watch was broken was all true (believe it or not, up to you, but put you into my perspective, not your watch savvy perspective). I can't fix hands touching each other in 5 minutes nor can i fix a keyless problem in one hour like [MENTION=35730]Heisenberg[/MENTION],that was why i was crying! And all other local watchsmiths here look at my in disgust because it was a replica? What should i do about it? I just spend $500+ for a non working watch. If $500 is nothing to you guys,fine, but it is a lot to me (definitely toooooooo little to heisenberg so he think i just act bitchy).
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The fact is the watch was broken was all true (believe it or not, up to you, but put you into my perspective, not your watch savvy perspective). I can't fix hands touching each other in 5 minutes nor can i fix a keyless problem in one hour like [MENTION=35730]Heisenberg[/MENTION],that was why i was crying! And all other local watchsmiths here look at my in disgust because it was a replica? What should i do about it? I just spend $500+ for a non working watch. If $500 is nothing to you guys,fine, but it is a lot to me (definitely toooooooo little to heisenberg so he think i just act bitchy).
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- sorry I didn't think straight when i put his info on the package, maybe i thought if netsub wants to return the package, it will go back to heisenberg. No harm intended to tell the truth.
- i will only answer your questions from now on. I will check back often to see if you need to ask me anything else.
- the Panerai rep i sent [MENTION=139103]netsub[/MENTION] was actually not a dummy. i spent $200 for it about 2 years ago but its crystal just fell off couple months ago. I have no idea how to fix it, but the watch is woking perfectly fine. He can replace the crystal for $10 or so and have a good working watch. You can check this fact with him. If he doesn't like that, he can return it to me since i already refunded the money to him. Just my thought.
- i just wanna ask for the access to only BK section since i was his customer. If anything go wrong, i know he will take a good care of me without questioning me what's wrong with it. I will only see his section and buy his watch. Is it ok to you? Of course I can't scam BK, there is no way!
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