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**WARNING** Do NOT deal with ANDREW OAKLEY silvershark! **SCAMMER ALERT**

Fiveostang

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Look, just like DVNE dosen't know me, I don't know him. Every man and his dog knows that mail tracking is poor at best. I have always had a niggling doubt that the watch never arrived just like the majority here assume I scammed him. What about the transactions I did after DVNE's for much higher amounts? ask them if they were scammed or if they received what they paid for. There was a transaction for double what DVNE paid with a member here which was problematic and I refunded his £450 in full. I just have a funny feeling about this one. If Byron can prove to me he didn't receive the watch i will refund in full.

And that's impossible. You obviously shipped something but the only "proof" anyone has is that the tracking hasn't updated in over a month. You still haven't answered the question of what you would do if the postal service honored your insurance it's still £300 light. Try and look at this from someone's perspective who's not involved.

1. Buyer sends payment for watch.

2. Seller ships watch with tracking but doesn't insure it properly.

3. Buyer doesn't receive watch.

4. Seller disappears for whatever reason.

5. Buyer makes thread and sellers personal details are revealed and that's finally when seller comes back on.

6. Seller finally posts receipt showing tracking and insurance value but it's £300 less than it should be.

Now imagine your the buyer in this scenario what would you expect the seller to do? If your answer is anything other than a refund than there is no reasoning with you. I'm not here to attack you I'm just hoping to help you understand what every other member following this is thinking and I hope you understand that.
 
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d4m.test

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Hey Andy, as the resident medical professional here, you look pretty healthy after having a lacerated liver and punctured bladder. I'd love to read about the mechanism of injury (how it happened beyond the kick) of that one. I'd also love to see how socialized medicine treated that one. Please, send me your chart, and I'll give it a look see.

I wonder what the good, God-fearing churchfolk would say next to the church you live next to.
 

sub4me

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Silvertongue, :bsmeter:

Look you Fing moron I've sent things between the US and UK and never had a problem, the problem here is your full of shit. If you sent a gen without declaring the proper value then you just Fing stupid. However, I dont believe for one second your bullshit story of actually shipping it. I believe you used the kiosk at the post office which is how you got the reciept and tracking number, but you never put the package in the bin, which is why theres never been any updated tracking which also explains why the post office isn't helping you, they've seen that done before stupid. So piss off.
 

NickOT

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actually the tracking hasn't updated in over 2 months.
The fact is we could all see that you have been online, and checking your PMs, and you chose to ignore the PMs from an admin as well. that does not look good for you.
The terms that we normally go by when the seller accepts no responsibility after posting is for REPS, since there is a risk of seizure by customs etc. But this is a gen sale, everything is legal, so you should take responsibility as well.

I just also wanted to point out on the receipt he used a self service kiosk. http://www.postoffice.co.uk/post-go-in-branch
looks like this nifty koisk will scan your barcode for your tracking etc. HOWEVER with royalmail registered items you can easily get a tracking number which is in the system and still hold onto your item. Even when you pay at a counter after paying and getting your receipt and the tracking number has been scanned into the system you have to drop off the package at a hatch at the end of the row of counters, there is normally a pile of registered and unregistered mail there and the post office only take them in from time to time. So you can not drop your item there, or if can be stolen by someone walking past. Registered mail is a joke and should not be used for anything valuable. Just because the tracking is in the system there is no guarantee it was physically accepted at the post office, since all the stuff in the hatch just gets dumped into a the mail bag to wait for royal mail collection.
I'm guessing when using the self service kiosk it is the same, scan and pay for your item at the kiosk, then drop off into the hatch area.

This is the reason when I was an ebay seller in UK I NEVER sent using registered mail, only with special delivery does the office office immediately accepts the item and puts it behind the counter.

I also want to point out the seller sent by International Tracked: http://www.royalmail.com/personal/international-delivery/international-tracked-signed
this does not seem a very good service to send a GEN watch by, namely that it doesn't even require a signature on delivery.
And he just decided not to pay for additional insurance as £50 is the default amount covered: http://www.royalmail.com/international-delivery/international

I would also like to add that this is not a registered mail item, registered mail tracking starts with R and that requires signature on delivery, and normally the postal service of the destination country will also add on their own tracking number when they receive it so it is tracked through their system also.
tracking numbers starting with L are mail items which provides tracking normally within the origin country only, Once it hits the destination country the postal service there treats it as regular mail and no tracking is provided, and no signature is required on delivery. I know this from experience from buying things and being given L tracking numbers
HOWEVER even items with L tracking numbers should show progress within the origin country and show when it left the origin country.
e.g. with strapcode, the tracking numbers they send me start with L, and it updates to the point of leaving the USA, then after a couple week just appears in my mailbox.

So in short, yes there are ways to exploit the system so you have a tracking number that is in the system and still have the package in your hand.
I cannot comment on if you didn't drop off the package or someone stole it from the hatch. But I am inclined to believe that you never dropped it off.

But the facts are:
  • You ignored PMs from both DVNE and an admin
  • The package you "sent" is suspiciously light
  • You sent by a totally inadequate service for a gen watch
 

sub4me

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Guys look at his reciept carefully at the top it says your self service reciept. These are printed from a self service kiosk. After you buy the postage for a package you then drop the package into a secure bin. He never placed it in the bin, he walked away with tracking number so he could claim he shipped it then blame the post office. I've heard of this rip off before, its not new.



 

dragonman4

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Either you A) are a complete tool and tried to cover your tracks and failed, or B) you are a tool AND a cheapskate when you went to ship a gen watch using a completely inadequate shipping method.

I'm going to lean with A but even if I'm wrong and it's B, you're still a tool. Especially for waiting so long to respond to this thread. How perfect was your timing to respond once we all figured out who you are in real life. I call bullshit.




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DVNE

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Damn it. He got [MENTION=23897]bbphrog[/MENTION] too?!
 

kampachi

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After reading silvershark's comments, i actually gave him a reason of doubt since he had proof of posting and the tracking shows:

Status: We have your item
Item LB211760294GB was posted at 37 Church Lane LS28 7LB on 15/05/15 and is being progressed through our network for delivery.

HOWEVER,i had my doubts when i saw his receipt. A watch posted with proper packaging can't be that light. I was packing my watch to be sent to a buyer later and it weighed 230grams+. I packed it in a small box like the ones that TDs use and wrapped with bubblewrap and styrofoam. A Panerai watch itself is already 130g, i guess silvercunt sent his watch with candy wrap.
 

joes

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Check the link that [MENTION=81248]Benedrik[/MENTION] provided. This a-hole clearly has history. The fact he claims he mailed it is laughable when clearly it's easy to obtain a tracking number without actually mailing the package. It can be done anywhere with self service.
 

bRONX

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After reading silvershark's comments, i actually gave him a reason of doubt since he had proof of posting and the tracking shows:

Status: We have your item
Item LB211760294GB was posted at 37 Church Lane LS28 7LB on 15/05/15 and is being progressed through our network for delivery.

HOWEVER,i had my doubts when i saw his receipt. A watch posted with proper packaging can't be that light. I was packing my watch to be sent to a buyer later and it weighed 230grams+. I packed it in a small box like the ones that TDs use and wrapped with bubblewrap and styrofoam. A Panerai watch itself is already 130g, i guess silvercunt sent his watch with candy wrap.

thing is , since its a self
service kiosk it will say accepted because he paid postage
 

trailboss99

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Here's the tracking number folks LB211760294GB How do you suppose I got a tracking number? It is still showing as progressing but is quite obviously lost. You lot are so quick to call scammer in this forum. I have had personal reasons for not responding lately which I'm not going to divulge because it's no one's business but mine. I've done nothing wrong here so have nothing to hide.
I don't give a flying fu*k what your "personal reasons" are, it takes 30 seconds to answer an email. As for tracking that has been explained above, nice little earner that. If you are so honest how about the other several thousand dollars worth of scams you have pulled in the past, how about the false name? You have scammed in the past and split, twice so even if this is a mistake now they have you for the first two. I would seriously consider making things right for thise guys as well and soon. I have no control on what members do off board and The Repo Crew take this shit seriously buddy. I'll do the right thing and pull your bank details down but the rest would have been obtained by careful trolling of publicly available info on the web so . . .


Face it, it may have taken several years but you have been nailed buddy.



Yea and I hacked in to Royal mails system to generate a tracking number. It's so easy for you so called detectives to check. Just phone royal mail and ask them what the destination address of that tracking number was.
WTF? As if RM are going to give an address to some random caller :facepalm:
 

Superman76

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I love how the members of this forum look out for one another... This should be a place for fun and fakery... not buttfuckery.
 

Retina

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there's rarely only one cockroach in the kitchen, we find one, we will find more. getting caught only means you probably did the same shit in the past... i dont believe that the admin and mod teams here would allow personal details to be posted so casually unless they have significant reasons to do so.

its not the first time a person has been caught red handed... and past people got their ass handed to them pretty well...
 

bRONX

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I don't give a flying fu*k what your "personal reasons" are, it takes 30 seconds to answer an email. As for tracking that has been explained above, nice little earner that. If you are so honest how about the other several thousand dollars worth of scams you have pulled in the past, how about the false name? You have scammed in the past and split, twice so even if this is a mistake now they have you for the first two. I would seriously consider making things right for thise guys as well and soon. I have no control on what members do off board and The Repo Crew take this shit seriously buddy. I'll do the right thing and pull your bank details down but the rest would have been obtained by careful trolling of publicly available info on the web so . . .


Face it, it may have taken several years but you have been nailed buddy.



WTF? As if RM are going to give an address to some random caller :facepalm:

aye mate dont want to be a burden but that bank info has been screen-shotted :wink:
 

silverfox47

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Here's the tracking number folks LB211760294GB How do you suppose I got a tracking number? It is still showing as progresing but is quite obviously lost. You lot are so quick to call scammer in this forum. I have had personal reasons for not responding lately which I'm not going to divulge because it's no one's business but mine. I've done nothing wrong here so have nothing to hide.

Well if she's with you I would diffenetlly be hiding that, what is she, your daughter?
 

JimLahey

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[MENTION=47109]silvershark[/MENTION] how about you make things right before the repo crew fû?ks you up. You are the one who fù?ked up. Not dvne. You chose to put 50£ insurance and by doing that the responsibilty is on you. Seriously, you're going to scam someone out of 350£ or however much the watch was and risk getting a visit from the repo crew?! Talk about a fü?king dumbass. You got caught. You have the opportunity to make it right. Just give [MENTION=53529]DVNE[/MENTION] his money back and you won't have to risk injury to you or your bank account, as im sure the RC will do if you don't make this right.