mari115
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This.
I can't tell between white gold and steel, you definitely CANNOT tell the difference between 316l and 904l on the wrist.
Here's a pic, which one is 904l? which one is 316l?
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VSF VS3135 Submariner Comparison Against the Gen
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This.
I can't tell between white gold and steel, you definitely CANNOT tell the difference between 316l and 904l on the wrist.
Here's a pic, which one is 904l? which one is 316l?
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This.
I can't tell between white gold and steel, you definitely CANNOT tell the difference between 316l and 904l on the wrist.
Here's a pic, which one is 904l? which one is 316l?
There are many nuances you can see with the naked eye which you can’t see on a photograph which has been crushed into sRGB and then crushed again by image hosting services.
The best example of which is rep vs gen Hulk. “Look how close they are!!!” Well, in real life, no - they’re not even close.
904 vs 316? To be honest, i have no idea. But I do see a difference between white gold and steel. Less so with Rolesor, but take a regular sub and a smurf - not even next to each other - and the difference is really obvious.
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I agree. Differences are there. But it's also a matter of your own eye. Some people are genuinely not able to notice some differences while they can notice others. All this steel debate is useless anyway because the only advantage I can see of having 904L is that (from what I have read, and I can be wrong) it will have a better effect if brushed gen-spec. But it is probably the last thing a sub should improve, there are more important points like crystal (too much different from a gen), insert, etc. Then if they really have sold 316L subs at 904L prices is not fair because of different prices, but anyway they have been the only decent sub until now so they could put the price they wanted.
mari115
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Totally agree about naked eye vs picture.
Of course there is a difference between WG and SS, no one is saying there isn't, the thing is "noticing" the difference. That only comes up under some lightning conditions, I personally can't tell the difference under sunlight, but I can tell it under artificial warm light, and if they are one next to each other. If i saw one on a wrist during everyday life I think i couldn't tell if it was WG or SS, without comparing it to another one.
So if it's that difficult to notice that, imagine 316l vs 904l.
That said it's disgusting that zzf lied to us and made 316l watches selling them as 904l.
But at the same time, we didn't notice, because it's almost impossible to tell lol.
Hopefully they stop these scummy practices.
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mari115
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Here's a pic, which one is 904l? which one is 316l?
Take a guess guys, i'll tell you which one is 904l or 316l soon!
I ordered 2 watches VSF 116610LN , it's been a long time since I looked at the evolutions of different manufacturers, but for me what decided me to buy is the quality and the cleanliness of the movement, I said to myself, if it's clean on the inside, it will be clean on the outside, moreover, the SEL looks not bad, and the transparency of the crystal is TOP ! I hope the Date will be not bold...
Sadly mine is bold on my QC’s. The ones from Jtime are the only ones I’ve seen with a nice slim font. Li does it again- wish I’d waited to order from him TBH. Oh well planning to swap out the DW in any case
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I noticed ZZF V3 QCs are coming in and thought it would be helpful to compare a VSF QC and ZZF QC side by side. Of course these are single units that may have some flaws in comparison to the batches but I think it is helpful for illustrative purposes. Also, neither of these are my QCs - just found both from Jtime QC posts and these were the first ones I came across so I haven't done any picking/choosing for specific "better" or "good" QCs.
Both are very well done - VSF has done an amazing job on their first try here.
VSF (left) v ZZF V3 (right).
Both are very well done - VSF has done an amazing job on their first try here.
VSF (left) v ZZF V3 (right).
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It's only the fat font on the DW.
Everything else seems pretty spot on, on the VSF (even tho that ZZF V3 looks amazing I'm still more inclined to the VSF).
I guess I will wait a bit longer.
VSF is known for the quick upgrades (for example, the No time to die or the Seamaster 300 ceramic).
They can easily change the DW and call it a V2 and add a few extra bucks
Having said that, I will probably wait for the VSF no date, since it's my favourite sub, and then there will be no problems
Cheers
Everything else seems pretty spot on, on the VSF (even tho that ZZF V3 looks amazing I'm still more inclined to the VSF).
I guess I will wait a bit longer.
VSF is known for the quick upgrades (for example, the No time to die or the Seamaster 300 ceramic).
They can easily change the DW and call it a V2 and add a few extra bucks
Having said that, I will probably wait for the VSF no date, since it's my favourite sub, and then there will be no problems
Cheers
mari115
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I noticed ZZF V3 QCs are coming in and thought it would be helpful to compare a VSF QC and ZZF QC side by side. Of course these are single units that may have some flaws in comparison to the batches but I think it is helpful for illustrative purposes. Also, neither of these are my QCs - just found both from Jtime QC posts and these were the first ones I came across so I haven't done any picking/choosing for specific "better" or "good" QCs.
Both are very well done - VSF has done an amazing job on their first try here.
VSF (left) v ZZF V3 (right).
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I noticed ZZF V3 QCs are coming in and thought it would be helpful to compare a VSF QC and ZZF QC side by side. Of course these are single units that may have some flaws in comparison to the batches but I think it is helpful for illustrative purposes. Also, neither of these are my QCs - just found both from Jtime QC posts and these were the first ones I came across so I haven't done any picking/choosing for specific "better" or "good" QCs.
Both are very well done - VSF has done an amazing job on their first try here.
VSF (left) v ZZF V3 (right).
I think the battle will end when we will have the occasion to see which one looks and feels more premium in real life. Until them, on paper, VSF is a better choice for the case and the movement, in my opinion.
On VSF, the hands are a little big compared to ZZF... the date is very good on the zzf, 2 watches very good ...I noticed ZZF V3 QCs are coming in and thought it would be helpful to compare a VSF QC and ZZF QC side by side. Of course these are single units that may have some flaws in comparison to the batches but I think it is helpful for illustrative purposes. Also, neither of these are my QCs - just found both from Jtime QC posts and these were the first ones I came across so I haven't done any picking/choosing for specific "better" or "good" QCs.
Both are very well done - VSF has done an amazing job on their first try here.
VSF (left) v ZZF V3 (right).
mari115
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case movement and crystal i'd say, but we should see some better pics of both under the same "irl" light.
P.S.
Isn't price also lower for the VSF?
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