• Tired of adverts on RWI? - Subscribe by clicking HERE and PMing Trailboss for instructions and they will magically go away!

VSF PAM 441 Love

runta25

Renowned Member
3/1/14
818
24
18
New York, NY
I am actually curious about 24hr -> 12hr. Wouldn't this just mean that the GMT hand moves in lock-step /w the hour hand, but can be independently set. This seems easier than having gearing in the movement that ticks the GMT hand 24hrs. (complete shot in the dark, and I don't know what I'm talking about)
 

Elgabal82

Getting To Know The Place
13/10/16
56
0
6
I am actually curious about 24hr -> 12hr. Wouldn't this just mean that the GMT hand moves in lock-step /w the hour hand, but can be independently set. This seems easier than having gearing in the movement that ticks the GMT hand 24hrs. (complete shot in the dark, and I don't know what I'm talking about)
That would be lovely to know....

Hope that some expert can answer to this question.

I have ordered my 441 from Ryan yesterday (waiting for the QC pictures).

Sent from the RWI mobile app
 

bangsters

I'm Pretty Popular
16/1/17
2,013
21
38
That would be lovely to know....

Hope that some expert can answer to this question.

I have ordered my 441 from Ryan yesterday (waiting for the QC pictures).

Sent from the RWI mobile app
I changed my order from 441 and 1312 to the 1359 (i like the dial of 441) and another 111 instead. Once i settle down on this pam addiction I will see if I can get a 441, hopefully by then someone has a mod to turn it into 12hr gmt hehehehhe

Sent from my HTC 10
 

mysterio

Mythical Poster
Advisor
19/8/08
9,794
864
0
I think someone mentioned in another thread that a few gears would be required. Or maybe I imagined it. :lol:
 

bangsters

I'm Pretty Popular
16/1/17
2,013
21
38
I think someone mentioned in another thread that a few gears would be required. Or maybe I imagined it. [emoji38]
I think I saw the same post bro. Although not sure if it's also doable to use the hour gears for the gmt as mentioned earlier... I got no skills on the movement so I don't really know lol

Sent from my HTC 10
 

chris3007

Mythical Poster
24/8/13
9,407
115
0
You just have to change this two gears and you have a 12h GMT

1c046b75073114e86f9544e1e0e6ea79.jpg


But you will not find this gears, so you have to build our own gears.
And that's the problem [emoji6]
 

bangsters

I'm Pretty Popular
16/1/17
2,013
21
38
You just have to change this two gears and you have a 12h GMT

1c046b75073114e86f9544e1e0e6ea79.jpg


But you will not find this gears, so you have to build our own gears.
And that's the problem [emoji6]
Wow very informative. Thanks. If onky that can be 3d printed hehheheh

Sent from my HTC 10
 

slaughterer62

Mythical Poster
DO NOT TRADE WITH ME
27/1/13
9,280
1,891
113
Chris has mentioned the conversion procedure. It would be easier if the VSF factory did this. Nobody I know wants to machine those gears from scratch at the moment.
 

bangsters

I'm Pretty Popular
16/1/17
2,013
21
38
Should the big gear be smaller, similar to the size used for the hour gear?

Sent from my HTC 10
 

Elgabal82

Getting To Know The Place
13/10/16
56
0
6
Chris has mentioned the conversion procedure. It would be easier if the VSF factory did this. Nobody I know wants to machine those gears from scratch at the moment.
But someone know the sizes and specifications of theese gears?

Or the needed sizes haren't calculated yet?

Never produced by anyone?

(Sorry if I asked a stupid question)



Sent from the RWI mobile app
 

ALE7575

Section Mod
Section Moderator
Certified
18/1/11
19,845
419
83
You just have to change this two gears and you have a 12h GMT

1c046b75073114e86f9544e1e0e6ea79.jpg


But you will not find this gears, so you have to build our own gears.
And that's the problem [emoji6]

Like this post
Thanks Chris, really useful
Now, I don't understand why makers have made nothing about that

ALE
 

sogo

Active Member
15/1/13
229
11
0
I also don't understand it.
They have built a complete new movement from the scratch and they just missed the 12h GMT.
The excellent movement factory is very busy, they refuse any parts change , As it takes long time for stability assessment ,
The 12 hours GMT gears is very easy for change for me .
 

bangsters

I'm Pretty Popular
16/1/17
2,013
21
38
The excellent movement factory is very busy, they refuse any parts change , As it takes long time for stability assessment ,
The 12 hours GMT gears is very easy for change for me .
Where can u get the parts to change the gear??

Sent from my HTC 10