VSF 126610 Submariner with VS3235 Latest Movement 72 Hours Power Reserve

[IntenseImage]

I got a good one (I think hahaha)

 

[japer]

My watch stopped running. With a huge wrist swing the watch starts running again for about 48 hours and stops again. Then the process repeats: huge swing it starts running again (accurately). Seems that normal walking isn't enough to energize it. Any experts who could chime in? what could it be? Let's see how long it runs for now. Help is much appreciated.

 

[bertieng]

This is worrying. It seems that the problems of the VS3235 are starting to emerge. Wondering if it would be a better bet to put a VR3135 into the watch instead. Then do they share the same dial feet positions?

 

[japer]

My VR3135 ran like an absolute champ..

 

[bertieng]

Got a reply from TD about QC as follows.

"unluckily amplitudes from this batch are most between 210-250 ,it's hard to find one with higher amplitude .
We've kept the watch working for more than 36hrs to make sure therre is no reserve issue "

Does this sound normal and acceptable?

 

[bertieng]

unluckily amplitudes from this batch are most between 210-250 ,it's hard to find one with higher amplitude .
We've kept the watch working for more than 36hrs to make sure therre is no reserve issue

 

[KJ2020]

This is worrying. It seems that the problems of the VS3235 are starting to emerge. Wondering if it would be a better bet to put a VR3135 into the watch instead. Then do they share the same dial feet positions?

Post #2637

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-72-hours-power-reserve?p=9702645#post9702645

 

[bertieng]

TD replied this.

unluckily amplitudes from this batch are most between 210-250 ,it's hard to find one with higher amplitude .
We've kept the watch working for more than 36hrs to make sure therre is no reserve issue

Does it sound normal and ok?

 

[Rehaut19]

unluckily amplitudes from this batch are most between 210-250 ,it's hard to find one with higher amplitude .
We've kept the watch working for more than 36hrs to make sure therre is no reserve issue

this mean that the movements need service?

 

[bertieng]

Post #2637

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...-72-hours-power-reserve?p=9702645#post9702645

Oh, so this is a rather no no for VR3135 swapping then

 

[muiramas]

Sad to hear this - mine is still running like a champ, but certainly making me re-think next purchases.

I assume this is affecting Date Justs as well?

 

[WatchSmith.US]

I have a LN and LV. One has a 270+ amplitude and the other is around 240. Both keep perfect time and the one I tested had 65+ hours power reserve. Also, both have gen balance and bridge.
misiekped might have info on amplitude.

 

[bertieng]

I have a LN and LV. One has a 270+ amplitude and the other is around 240. Both keep perfect time and the one I tested had 65+ hours power reserve. Also, both have gen balance and bridge.
misiekped might have info on amplitude.

This is interesting. So even with the gen. full balance setup installed, the amplitude can still have a rather big variance in the VS3235.
This inconsistency can mean the VS3235 is not yet as maturely constructed as the VR3135?
Perhaps I should just accept the watch with the current low amplitude config. then.

 

[WatchSmith.US]

This is interesting. So even with the gen. full balance setup installed, the amplitude can still have a rather big variance in the VS3235.
This inconsistency can mean the VS3235 is not yet as maturely constructed as the VR3135?
Perhaps I should just accept the watch with the current low amplitude config. then.

There are a few things that can affect amplitude. Mainspring, dirt, inadequate lube, balance endshake. I wonder if my low amplitude movement will receive a boost with a service. I would assume it would. We have to remember that rep companies don't have Rolex trained watchmakers assembling movements, and they lack quality control that Swiss companies have, so there are bound to be some that are improperly lubricated and assembled. On one of mine I examined the VS balance jewel and it was correctly lubed which is good, but I haven't torn it down to examine the rest of the movement. Getting it serviced is obviously cheap insurance.

 

[watchservicesny]

Even gen 3235 working on low amplitude 250-270
Nothing to worry about it


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[watchservicesny]

^ Lift angle 55


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[YellowFin]

This is worrying. It seems that the problems of the VS3235 are starting to emerge.

Mine arrived bone dry, so it's not necessarily a fault of the underlying movement design if it breaks down. Just needs some love i.e. oil in this case... :wink:

 

[Rehaut19]

Caliber 3235 does not have the characteristics of the caliber 3135. The amplitude of the caliber 3235 less.

Cal. 3235:

Lift angle - 52
Amplitude at full wind -- 260_270 max

The mechanism is checked after 24 hours. The amplitude must not be less than 210. Accuracy on the second day -- -3/+5 s/d.

 

[IntenseImage]

This is what mine just came back with

 

[gindiesel]

My watch stopped running. With a huge wrist swing the watch starts running again for about 48 hours and stops again. Then the process repeats: huge swing it starts running again (accurately). Seems that normal walking isn't enough to energize it. Any experts who could chime in? what could it be? Let's see how long it runs for now. Help is much appreciated.

What happens when you wind it?