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Today we tested all the popular SUBs for 904L steel

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Yes I just called ARF and confirmed this.


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Angus, I don't believe what Arf told you. I bet if you ask ZZf tells you that his bracelet is the same as Arf, in 904 steel. however, a test on the V.3 ZZF bracelet would clear up any doubts
 

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Angus, I don't believe what Arf told you. I bet if you ask ZZf tells you that his bracelet is the same as Arf, in 904 steel. however, a test on the V.3 ZZF bracelet would clear up any doubts

You don’t have to, just trust what you see with your own eyes.


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When that is said, it's also important to bear in mind that these companies are all competitors - and even though they are all "friendly" towards each other, they are still competitors. In the real world of business, when a competitor does poorly your sales most likely rises. Money talks - regardless of how friendly people are.

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Very well said - my words exactly. That’s the way it is... simple.

So, summarizing the facts, we have a ZF-sponsored „test“ in which, big surprise, one of the currently most successful Sub reps (ZZF) is being blamed to the max. Ah yes, and ZF has just or is about to release their own Sub rep (even more expensive than the ZZF).

is it just me or does this leave a couple of questionmarks? For my part, I am waiting on some independent and unbiased test. If it then turns out to be as it is proclaimed to be here, then fine and obviously bad for ZZF and a total no go. If not - do the maths.
 
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You don’t have to, just trust what you see with your own eyes.


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as has already been said, if I produce a bracelet it would be counterproductive to sign an exclusive contract with only one buyer if I know that by supplying my product to 5 other buyers I can earn at least five times more
 

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The test result is only for reference, if you don’t believe it then just ignore it.

Several people were invited to witness the test to make sure the test was fair.

I am only using the test result in my coming review, if anyone has different result and please show us so I can do a more accurate review.


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Sdc83

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The test result is only for reference, if you don’t believe it then just ignore it.

Several people were invited to witness the test to make sure the test was fair.

I am only using the test result in my coming review, if anyone has different result and please show us so I can do a more accurate review.


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I believe in the tests done, but I don't believe in what Arf told you about having the exclusivity on the bracelet that his sub mounts. would you make an exclusive contract with Arf, to sell only its subs? no, because it wouldn't be convenient for you. why would the maker of the arf sub bracelet give up on being able to earn more?
 

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I believe in the tests done, but I don't believe in what Arf told you about having the exclusivity on the bracelet that his sub mounts. would you make an exclusive contract with Arf, to sell only its subs? no, because it wouldn't be convenient for you. why would the maker of the arf sub bracelet give up on being able to earn more?

Because ARF is their biggest client and they want ARF to keep using them.

You don’t have to believe anything my friend. This is how this business works, but there were betrayals in the past. I am only telling what I am told. It’s up to you whether to believe or not.


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Because ARF is their biggest client and they want ARF to keep using them.

You don’t have to believe anything my friend. This is how this business works, but there were betrayals in the past. I am only telling what I am told. It’s up to you whether to believe or not.


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Imho only a test on the bracelet of the zzf v.3 will tell us if Arf told the truth
 

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I increasingly tend to see this is as just some kind of beginners-level marketing bs that ARF and especially ZF are pulling here... do the maths, it’s simple. Long List of obvious reasons for that - see above.
 
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LOL okie, I give up


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Please don’t give up bro I and I’m sure most of the people on RWI trust your inputs and appreciate your information you shared. Some people just don’t know how to appreciate. Please do let us know the final results


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I will still do the review when I have everything in hands. I just gave up explaining.


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I increasingly tend to see this is as just some kind of beginners-level marketing bs that ARF and especially ZF are pulling here... do the maths, it’s simple. Long List of obvious reasons for that - see above.

It does follow that if you make a quality product and you know there are aspects of a competitors equivalent product which are inferior, that you would bring this to light to your addressable market. Particularly when the competition are caught out publishing inaccuracies.


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Everyone loves zzf and not zf so I'm not sure if this could be a ploy of some sort to get more people into the zf camp.anyway thank angus for doing this

I agree, I just read this all and there are multiple things that seem fishy lmao.
Thank you Angus!


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I will still do the review when I have everything in hands. I just gave up explaining.


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You dont have to explain anything mate, some people just try to step on your head if you being too nice to them. Do what you like, you dont owe anything to anyone here.
cheers mate,,,
 
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I will still do the review when I have everything in hands. I just gave up explaining.


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You already explain all you have to...
No more explanation and just keep go on bro


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