The VSF Submariners Thread

[StreetFighter]

SS is less refined than gold. really, a new SS Submariner bezel is so rough you're almost ready to call it out as fake.

 

[Nikz19]

SS is less refined than gold. really, a new SS Submariner bezel is so rough you're almost ready to call it out as fake.

That’s not true. I handled hundreds of genuine bezels and they’re soft at touch. In fact one of the first things one has to do to identify a rep is touching the bezel tooth. Rep ones feel like coca cola bottle caps.

 

[takks]

Describe what you think gen is like? A gen Submariner bezel when new is a rough as a rough cast wall. It will shred a shirt cuff. Remember Roger Moore's buzzsaw Sub in Live & Let Die? They didn't need to sharpen the bezel, a new Sub is like that, sharp, rough and unfinished. Any rep I have had has had a smoother than gen bezel.. So if you CF is smooth or even just a little rough, its NOT like gen. Gen is sandpaper.

I meant same as Nikz19 mentioned.
CF bezel is softer at touch then more feels Gen.
VSF has a bit deeper tooth shape, it makes offensive feelings at touch.


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[StreetFighter]

That’s not true. I handled hundreds of genuine bezels and they’re soft at touch. In fact one of the first things one has to do to identify a rep is touching the bezel tooth. Rep ones feel like coca cola bottle caps.

This is at odds with my findings. I bought a new 116610LN from an AD and the bezel edge was as rough as sandpaper.

I think maybe by the time they come to you (a watchmaker) they are used and no longer rough like new. They don't take long to lose the roughness. Maybe someone else with experience of a brand new gen SS Sub will chime in.

 

[StreetFighter]

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That’s not true. I handled hundreds of genuine bezels and they’re soft at touch. In fact one of the first things one has to do to identify a rep is touching the bezel tooth. Rep ones feel like coca cola bottle caps.

 

[StreetFighter]

I meant same as Nikz19 mentioned.
CF bezel is softer at touch then more feels Gen.
VSF has a bit deeper tooth shape, it makes offensive feelings at touch.


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I have no reason to spout rubbish.. I only pass on facts. Gen SS Sub bezel is rough as a buzz saw when new, fact.

 

[Björn_Ironside]

I was able to pick up several 116610 gen bezels, soft and silky to the touch, a pleasure

 

[takks]

Everyone has their own opinion.

 

[StreetFighter]

I have a worn one, it is soft and silky to the touch, had it since new .. it's brand new I'm saying is rough.

 

[Nikz19]

Gen SS Sub bezel is rough as a buzz saw when new, fact.

I’m thorn between believing a “fact” based on your single experience or the hundreds of genuines I handled myself being them both gen bezels installed on reps or gen 116610s and 114060s came in lab for service.

Joking lol the feeling at touch is ENTIRELY different.

 

[Fisherman1980]

Controversial opinion but what I'm seeing on these websites and reddit. The quantity of vsf subs being bought and being sold by not only trusted dealers.... vsf is essentially is up and back. Yes they aren't in full production mode but these aren't necessarily "limited stock" where they will disappear forever

 

[StreetFighter]

I’m thorn between believing a “fact” based on your single experience or the hundreds of genuines I handled myself being them both gen bezels installed on reps or gen 116610s and 114060s came in lab for service.

Joking lol the feeling at touch is ENTIRELY different.

I have handled and owned lots of gen Subs myself. If you had a brand new one, fresh out the packet you’d understand. The bezels are sharp edged until they smooth off from wear. Doesn’t take long to smooth off but they are sharp when brand new. This is my experience. I have bought 2 brand new Subs from AD’s. I don’t want to argue about it, just sharing my experience.

 

[John Abel]

The pre-raid VSF Submariners have become a benchmark for reps!

Hopefully coming back with the same quality or better, whatever the factory

 

[StreetFighter]

My post raid 126610LN is really good too. Just as good as the pre raid Subs I have.

 

[Fisherman1980]

Hopefully coming back with the same quality or better, whatever the factory

Controversial opinion but what I'm seeing on these websites and reddit. The quantity of vsf subs being bought and being sold by not only trusted dealers.... vsf is essentially is up and back. Yes they aren't in full production mode but these aren't necessarily "limited stock" where they will disappear forever

 

[hq12345]

I agree, VSF is back albeit not officially, would love to see the no date


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[Theelite187]

My post raid 126610LN is really good too. Just as good as the pre raid Subs I have.

Would
you say any difference physically?

 

[YellowFin]

I agree, VSF is back albeit not officially, would love to see the no date

Count me in, 124060 please!

 

[drferrari1]

I have been using my vsf yatchmaster daily for more than a year. It looks just like new. When I got it, took it to my watch guy for “service” he revised it and said no service needed. This is a masterpiece. Bring it back in 3-5 years.


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[StreetFighter]

I have been using my vsf yatchmaster daily for more than a year. It looks just like new. When I got it, took it to my watch guy for “service” he revised it and said no service needed. This is a masterpiece. Bring it back in 3-5 years.


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Oysterflex? It's the durability of the bracelets that I think lets them down, specifically the poor quality of the pins and welds that hold it together.