The VSF Submariners Thread

[Skulley]

Hopefully it’s just the photo angle! There’s so much we can complain about, sharp cases, not everything align and so on but in the end of the day it’s a copy and a hell of a good one!

Either way it's still better than buying an original one. If you're rich and don't care about money, by all means go for genuine. But I don't see a reason why I, not rich not poor, should spend 10.000 euros, after waiting 2+ years on a list and probably get treated like a peasant by the Rolex dealer to end up owning a genuine watch, when 99% of people don't care or know enough about Rolex and probably assume that it's fake (like all luxury items, LV bags are a good example) from the get go.

The flaw hurts me more because once you know it's there, it's hard to ignore, but I realise that even genuine watches have flaws and not even people sitting next to me will be able to see that flaw or even know that it is a flaw.

 

[HelloBusby]

Is it just me, or are the pips on the recent 12 series subs terrible? They barely have any definition. Almost U1 quality if I have to be honest.

 

[Jcap66]

Either way it's still better than buying an original one. If you're rich and don't care about money, by all means go for genuine. But I don't see a reason why I, not rich not poor, should spend 10.000 euros, after waiting 2+ years on a list and probably get treated like a peasant by the Rolex dealer to end up owning a genuine watch, when 99% of people don't care or know enough about Rolex and probably assume that it's fake (like all luxury items, LV bags are a good example) from the get go.

The flaw hurts me more because once you know it's there, it's hard to ignore, but I realise that even genuine watches have flaws and not even people sitting next to me will be able to see that flaw or even know that it is a flaw.

Well I totally agree but at the same I think we have to keep some kind of standard for our watches. Some miner flaws are ok, like I know it’s gonna have sharp edges but I can fix that and if the 9 o’clock marker are a little bit off compare to the 3 it’s ok. But I can’t GL rehauts that are way off, markers that covers text or sits at 45 degrees.

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[Skulley]

Well I totally agree but at the same I think we have to keep some kind of standard for our watches. Some miner flaws are ok, like I know it’s gonna have sharp edges but I can fix that and if the 9 o’clock marker are a little bit off compare to the 3 it’s ok. But I can’t GL rehauts that are way off, markers that covers text or sits at 45 degrees.

More on topic. Sub with morning coffee at work

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Yeah, rushed my QC for some reason (maybe excitement, wanting to get it shipped asap because it's my first rep. Very weird because I'm usually the guy that spends hours doing research, comparing, etc). But also, Geektime is more expensive than 90% of the other TD's (could have went with someone else and saved 50-100$), so maybe I had the wrong expectations or a bias? I thought that he's more expensive because he sources the "less-flawed" VFS's on the market, so I was already expecting a good one and didn't feel the need to really take my time and do the QC properly (if that makes sense). I also made a post on reddit QC page, and instantly got the green light from different people, so that made me give the GL even faster (I do think that the QC group needs to be a little bit more critical, like you said, some things are acceptable, but in my case I think that the other guys should have given the RL for the 6 o'clock flaw and not see it as a non-issue because it's a rep, it's still 580$ and I've seen better dials on 300$ ones). So yeah, live and learn, won't ruin the fun when it arrives, but will definitely be a lesson for any future purchases made. Will be waiting for a few months or years for an improved batch with pretty much 0 flaws visually (many dial flaws, like wobbly text, on the current batch from VFS).

PS: nice watch, wear It in good health

 

[Jcap66]

Yeah, rushed my QC for some reason (maybe excitement, wanting to get it shipped asap because it's my first rep. Very weird because I'm usually the guy that spends hours doing research, comparing, etc). But also, Geektime is more expensive than 90% of the other TD's (could have went with someone else and saved 50-100$), so maybe I had the wrong expectations or a bias? I thought that he's more expensive because he sources the "less-flawed" VFS's on the market, so I was already expecting a good one and didn't feel the need to really take my time and do the QC properly (if that makes sense). I also made a post on reddit QC page, and instantly got the green light from different people, so that made me give the GL even faster (I do think that the QC group needs to be a little bit more critical, like you said, some things are acceptable, but in my case I think that the other guys should have given the RL for the 6 o'clock flaw and not see it as a non-issue because it's a rep, it's still 580$ and I've seen better dials on 300$ ones). So yeah, live and learn, won't ruin the fun when it arrives, but will definitely be a lesson for any future purchases made. Will be waiting for a few months or years for an improved batch with pretty much 0 flaws visually (many dial flaws, like wobbly text, on the current batch from VFS).

PS: nice watch, wear It in good health

Sometimes the excitement takes over. I got a VSF datejust with a dial colour that I wasn’t so in to just because it was a really good price and a good qc and I really wanted one, now I nearly ever use it bc of the dial colour haha. My only point is that if we gl everything the manufacturer can continue to be sloppy and make more money on our behalf.
But we never look at our watches as close in real life as we do on the internet so I think you will be happy with yours too. Post pictures when you get it

 

[Einawood]

I got my QC a couple of days ago, and also was a bit eager. I did a WC on Reddit, and at the same time asked a mod there; and got only GL.
After GL I found some minor flaws, but nothing I can’t live with.

What are your thoughts?

MOD EDIT : no QC pics allowed on RWI. As explained many times around the forum, keep the threads clear of them. Decide for yourself or post a specific pic when an obvious flaw needs advices.

 

[Messi]

Why only have one?

why only 3?

 

[MilleMiglia513]

I got my QC a couple of days ago, and also was a bit eager. I did a WC on Reddit, and at the same time asked a mod there; and got only GL.
After GL I found some minor flaws, but nothing I can’t live with.

What are your thoughts?

Curious what “minor flaws” you found? That QC tool is pretty neat, everything looks well aligned.

 

[light94]

I just placed an order for a VSF 126610 and noticed the bracelet clasp code is now 3VV instead of 1LQ. Serial on rehaut is still Q66. In this thread, folks have been receiving 1LQ as the latest batch. Anyone have information on 3VV? Could be a new batch of bracelets

 

[Kup1712]

I just placed an order for a VSF 126610 and noticed the bracelet clasp code is now 3VV instead of 1LQ. Serial on rehaut is still Q66. In this thread, folks have been receiving 1LQ as the latest batch. Anyone have information on 3VV? Could be a new batch of bracelets

Latest batch is mix of 1lq or 3vv.

 

[Pegaci83]

Is the rotor a little noisy for you too?

 

[JamBam]

Hi all,

Can I please get some advice on my QC, first time rep buyer here. It looks like 6 o'clock is too close to "Swiss made". Also the 3 o'clock marker doesn't look straight (could be just my eyes). Is this OK to give the GL?

MOD EDIT : no QC pics allowed on RWI. As explained many times around the forum, keep the threads clear of them. Decide for yourself or post a specific pic when an obvious flaw needs advices.

 

[Jcap66]

I got my QC a couple of days ago, and also was a bit eager. I did a WC on Reddit, and at the same time asked a mod there; and got only GL.
After GL I found some minor flaws, but nothing I can’t live with.

What are your thoughts?

what minor flaws have you found? I think it looks great and you should be happy with it

 

[Jcap66]

Hi all,

Can I please get some advice on my QC, first time rep buyer here. It looks like 6 o'clock is too close to "Swiss made". Also the 3 o'clock marker doesn't look straight (could be just my eyes). Is this OK to give the GL?

QC aren’t allowed here, you yourself should decide if you’re happy with it.

Hi all,

Can I please get some advice on my QC, first time rep buyer here. It looks like 6 o'clock is too close to "Swiss made". Also the 3 o'clock marker doesn't look straight (could be just my eyes). Is this OK to give the GL?

QC aren’t allowed here, you yourself should decide if you’re happy with it.
There’s another watch with the same problems as yours on the previous page. I personally wouldn’t GL a watch where the marker covers text but it’s up to you what you think are acceptable

 

[JamBam]

QC aren’t allowed here, you yourself should decide if you’re happy with it.


QC aren’t allowed here, you yourself should decide if you’re happy with it.
There’s another watch with the same problems as yours on the previous page. I personally wouldn’t GL a watch where the marker covers text but it’s up to you what you think are acceptable

Oh my apologies, I didn't realise they are not allowed. Well noted. Are they allowed if I make my own thread?

 

[mrsullivan]

As a reminder : PLEASE DO NOT POST QC PICS, UNLESS AN OBVIOUS FLAW NEEDS TO BE ADRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY.
NOT ALLOWED !!!

 

[Einawood]

I got my QC a couple of days ago, and also was a bit eager. I did a WC on Reddit, and at the same time asked a mod there; and got only GL.
After GL I found some minor flaws, but nothing I can’t live with.

What are your thoughts?

MOD EDIT : no QC pics allowed on RWI. As explained many times around the forum, keep the threads clear of them. Decide for yourself or post a specific pic when an obvious flaw needs advices.

Sorry for the misunderstanding mod! this wasn’t meant as a QC. I have already sent GL. So no way back anyhow

Just explained it was my QC-pics, and was curious what the people here tought about the watch.
I might have put my words out wrong.

 

[Einawood]

Curious what “minor flaws” you found? That QC tool is pretty neat, everything looks well aligned.

The rehault is a bit off some places and the pip looks a tiny bit off to the right.

But I can live with these minor flaws

 

[JamBam]

As a reminder : PLEASE DO NOT POST QC PICS, UNLESS AN OBVIOUS FLAW NEEDS TO BE ADRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY.
NOT ALLOWED !!!

Duly noted! Apologies

 

[mrsullivan]

Sorry for the misunderstanding mod! this wasn’t meant as a QC. I have already sent GL. So no way back anyhow

Just explained it was my QC-pics, and was curious what the people here tought about the watch.
I might have put my words out wrong.

No worries, thanks for clearing the purpose of your post. As soon as QC are approved and pictures to inform other members it's all good