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The VSF Submariners Thread

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is it only vsf or clean that has a problem with gold and the others suffer from it too?
The VSF in particular struggle with gold colour. Clean, not so much. But Clean use the VR movement and not the DangDong like VSF
 

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Hi, I am new to forums, but I just want to say thank you. I have read this entire thread and I just want to thank all the active members that have contributed to this gold mine of information. It really is so helpful when navigating such a big first purchase. Thank you all.
 

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Hi, I am new to forums, but I just want to say thank you. I have read this entire thread and I just want to thank all the active members that have contributed to this gold mine of information. It really is so helpful when navigating such a big first purchase. Thank you all.
You're welcome, and welcome to RWI.
 
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tacomn

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The VSF in particular struggle with gold colour. Clean, not so much. But Clean use the VR movement and not the DangDong like VSF
Clean uses same vs 3135 movement now on those specific watches with that movement. 3235 though is still from VSF only.
 

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I just recieved a 116619LB Smurf.. it's a brand new watch serial K25..

It's not the same VSF quality of my other VSF watches, this watch looks great but it feels like a rep?! In particular the bracelet feels cheap and rattly, it's totally unlubricated and each link grinds and squeaks against the one next to it. The bracelet has sharp edges that I can shave my fingernail with. The sides of the watch case has sharp edges too. The glidelock feels crap.
The pearl on the insert has a very fine rim which doesn't look quite right to my eye.

Positives, the crown screw action is butter, the bezel action is perfect and SEL is recess is good x4. The cyclops has no distortion, the hands are nicely 3d.. but it feels like a rep.

Compared to my VSF116610LV which was one of the first ones whe they launched, that watch feels like a Rolex and it glides through your hands like a sheet of silk, this new one does not, it's clunky and sqeaucky and sharp edged.

What is going on VSF?
 
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mhrboy

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I just recieved a 116619LB Smurf.. it's a brand new watch serial K25..

It's not the same VSF quality of my other VSF watches, this watch looks great but it feels like a rep?! In particular the bracelet feels cheap and rattly, it's totally unlubricated and each link grinds and squeaks against the one next to it. The bracelet has sharp edges that I can shave my fingernail with. The sides of the watch case has sharp edges too. The glidelock feels crap.
The pearl on the insert has a very fine rim which doesn't look quite right to my eye.

Positives, the crown screw action is butter, the bezel action is perfect and SEL is recess is good x4. The cyclops has no distortion, the hands are nicely 3d.. but it feels like a rep.

Compared to my VSF116610LV which was one of the first ones whe they launched, that watch feels like a Rolex and it glides through your hands like a sheet of silk, this new one does not, it's clunky and sqeaucky and sharp edged.

What is going on VSF?
I had the same feelings and I exposed that about SELs.
IMHO Before raids quality was definitely better!
 

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I just recieved a 116619LB Smurf.. it's a brand new watch serial K25..

It's not the same VSF quality of my other VSF watches, this watch looks great but it feels like a rep?! In particular the bracelet feels cheap and rattly, it's totally unlubricated and each link grinds and squeaks against the one next to it. The bracelet has sharp edges that I can shave my fingernail with. The sides of the watch case has sharp edges too. The glidelock feels crap.
The pearl on the insert has a very fine rim which doesn't look quite right to my eye.

Positives, the crown screw action is butter, the bezel action is perfect and SEL is recess is good x4. The cyclops has no distortion, the hands are nicely 3d.. but it feels like a rep.

Compared to my VSF116610LV which was one of the first ones whe they launched, that watch feels like a Rolex and it glides through your hands like a sheet of silk, this new one does not, it's clunky and sqeaucky and sharp edged.

What is going on VSF?
I'm upset because I just wanted to place an order for 126610ln vsf... Then I'll have to go read about clean and make a choice in its favor?(
 
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I just recieved a 116619LB Smurf.. it's a brand new watch serial K25..

It's not the same VSF quality of my other VSF watches, this watch looks great but it feels like a rep?! In particular the bracelet feels cheap and rattly...

... it feels like a rep.

What is going on VSF?

I ageee 100%
VSF pre raid were excellent. They put out a great product and paid attention to proper finishing. The biggest tell of VSF's lack of quality is evident with their new 124060 with wrong 3235 movement instead of the proper 3230 movement.

VSF seems to have gotten complacent. 👎
 
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I'm upset because I just wanted to place an order for 126610ln vsf... Then I'll have to go read about clean and make a choice in its favor?(
You're upset because you're going to have to read another thread and because there is no clear "best rep"?

Welcome to the rep world. Nothing to be upset about, it's just what it is
 

DzR-ALF

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You're upset because you're going to have to read another thread and because there is no clear "best rep"?

Welcome to the rep world. Nothing to be upset about, it's just what it is
Because up to this point I have already made a choice in favor of vsf, but now I am at a loss again and do not know what to choose)
I just want to get my first "best rep" 126610ln))
 

DzR-ALF

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Получите Submariner 11-й серии от VSF. Возможно, лучшие повторения, когда-либо сделанные, особенно 114060 No Date.

Get an 11 series Submariner from VSF. Possibly the best reps ever made, especially the 114060 No Date.
I don't like 116610(and I don't like the "no date" version((
It seems it turned out to be a little more complicated than I expected....
 

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I just recieved a 116619LB Smurf.. it's a brand new watch serial K25..

It's not the same VSF quality of my other VSF watches, this watch looks great but it feels like a rep?! In particular the bracelet feels cheap and rattly, it's totally unlubricated and each link grinds and squeaks against the one next to it. The bracelet has sharp edges that I can shave my fingernail with. The sides of the watch case has sharp edges too. The glidelock feels crap.
The pearl on the insert has a very fine rim which doesn't look quite right to my eye.

Positives, the crown screw action is butter, the bezel action is perfect and SEL is recess is good x4. The cyclops has no distortion, the hands are nicely 3d.. but it feels like a rep.

Compared to my VSF116610LV which was one of the first ones whe they launched, that watch feels like a Rolex and it glides through your hands like a sheet of silk, this new one does not, it's clunky and sqeaucky and sharp edged.

What is going on VSF?
I get the feeling the parts supply chain has come under pressure and they are just sourcing what they can with variable results. It's pot luck which version of VSF you may get these days.
 

biff1001

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When we talk about VSF getting raided i think it was more the suppliers of top quality parts that took the hit and they have never got back to the standards they had.
 
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StreetFighter

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I spent some time refinishing the edges of the bracelet and case with 1500 grit paper, Bergeon buff sticks and Cape Cod where required and it feels MUCH better now. Then after some lubricant, it feels more like it should. It glides through my hands now, I can't shave a fingernail with the sides of the bracelet or case, it's like silk, just like a gen stainless steel Sub. I'll work the same magic on the glidelock mechanism tomorrow.

If anyone would like this service send me a message. I can make your VSF feel like a Rolex if it didn't already come that way.
 
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Tobel

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Because up to this point I have already made a choice in favor of vsf, but now I am at a loss again and do not know what to choose)
I just want to get my first "best rep" 126610ln))
As I said, there is usually no best rep, just trade offs that you have to make because a given rep will be better on certain features and worse on others. That's how the rep world works
 
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When we talk about VSF getting raided i think it was more the suppliers of top quality parts that took the hit and they have never got back to the standards they had.
There's recent news of raids and rumors of other factories laying low, so I'm thinking there will be more variability in the quality of the stocks/parts going forward.
 
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