The Vintage DateJust Thread

[Ror]

I received my raffles case with the included metal gasket for 3135 movement, i’m very impressed with this iteration of the raffles dial (2824). I compared it to my korean case and it’s very very similar at 1/10th the price. The lugs are a little big, but they are good enough imo.

 

[Ror]

I put a gen spec gasket and clark’s crystal by hand, when i get home ill test gen gold bezel and gen crown.

 

[Ror]

Gen crown (B24-603-8 18k is what i bought) with gen stem fits with no problems, it screws in nicely like the included crown.

Gen Bezel (5digit bezel) fits with the clark’s crystal and the included gasket it was just a little tight, but i was able to press it with little force.

I am very very impressed right now.

 

[Ror]

Having trouble fitting my dial, i’ll have to topen up the rehaut, it’s 27.22mm and my dial is 27.90mm

 

[Ror]

I’m having trouble with the movement spacer, i don’t really know how’s it’s supposed to work. it doesn’t fit around the movement like how i assumed it would.

 

[Replicated]

You don't need that spacer. This spacer shown is for the 2824 movement.
Since you're using a 3135 movement, it is not necessary.

You'll need a crystal gasket as a spacer it might sound weird. But the one linked is the right material and size. So the movement sits nice and tight in the case.

Just gently put the movement in the case and place the gasket/spacer in between the movement and case. Use a toothpick or something soft to push it in.

Don't forget to cut the gasket, to make room for the stem. After that you can install the movement clamps to secure it in place.

 

[mmax]

I think it’s a spacer for an ETA rather than 3135. It should be one of these plastic gaskets

Five Pcs 28.5x1.7x0.4mm Plastic Gasket Spacer I Rings For Settimg 3135 Or 3130 Movement Inside My 36mm Watch Case Fit 2824

rafflesdials.com

 

[Ror]

I’m dumb, the little plastic gasket was the movement spacer not the metal one haha.

I think it’s a spacer for an ETA rather than 3135. It should be one of these plastic gaskets

Five Pcs 28.5x1.7x0.4mm Plastic Gasket Spacer I Rings For Settimg 3135 Or 3130 Movement Inside My 36mm Watch Case Fit 2824

rafflesdials.com

 

[Ror]

You don't need that spacer. This spacer shown is for the 2824 movement.
Since you're using a 3135 movement, it is not necessary.

You'll need a crystal gasket as a spacer it might sound weird. But the one linked is the right material and size. So the movement sits nice and tight in the case.

Just gently put the movement in the case and place the gasket/spacer in between the movement and case. Use a toothpick or something soft to push it in.

Don't forget to cut the gasket, to make room for the stem. After that you can install the movement clamps to secure it in place.

Can i put the gasket in first like so?

 

[Ror]

I cut the gasket and put it from the back, i will have to definitively shave off the rehaut to allow the swiss made to come out. Someone mentioned sandpaper on a cone attachment for a drill, i’ll try that. Ignore the crystal placement, i just popped it in there to test out the case.

 

[Ror]

I switched back to my korean case while i get clamps and sand down the rehaut in the raffles.

My case back didn’t screw correctly on the korean case anymore, and then i tried the raffles caseback on the korean case and it fits!!! it fits and it doesn’t catch the rotor.

 

[pullthat92]

Did you ever end up figuring this out? I've noticed that gen 4 digit bezels are significantly cheaper than 5 digit bezels (yellow gold fluted). Obviously would love to go with the cheaper option if it fits.

Not sure. It seems like nobody knows. However looking at the price difference, it seems like they might not be compatible, so I've decided to go with the 1016L smooth bezel.

 

[Ror]

Not sure. It seems like nobody knows. However looking at the price difference, it seems like they might not be compatible, so I've decided to go with the 1016L smooth bezel.

From what i was told by the guy that teaches me about watches/the guy that built my first franken, bezels after 1993 increased in size and weight. i have a gen 16233 bezel that’s 5.2g, but some of the 16013s are like 3.2g. The raw gold value decreases the price of them.

if you put a 16013 bezel on sapphire, the gasket might show, but fits perfect on an acrylic as well.

 

[dodact]

New member here, found just the thread I was looking for! Obsessed with the Datejust and piecing together my franken build. Can’t wait to contribute in here.

I see most of you guys are using raffles bracelet. From what it seems like the way to go for a super franken is an Italian made or… gen? For any of you folks that have experience with both, how good is the raffles bracelet?

I’ve got mostly Gen parts for my build and don’t really want to skimp out on a bracelet but a Gen bracelet would cost as much if not more than what I’m into the build for. Open to thoughts.

Pic for attention sneak peak of 2 of the 4 dials I bought… basically have everything I need to do a two tone or silver.. will probably decide when I put it together what route I end up going.

 

[mmax]

Inspired by this thread, I have a gen 6605 Datejust case and like to implant a 3135. The dimensions should be not so different compared to the old caliber 1065. I do not have a dial yet to simply test if it could work. Maybe someone has already tried this? Thanks!

I have just finished my project of re-fitting a 66 year old Datejust case with a modern ticking heart. The first thing I learned was that the old Datejust dials must be slightly larger (28.5mm) since the current one falls through the rehaut. Fortunately, the 3135 is large enough and can be brought to the correct height with a teflon gasket (27.5x0.85x0.4 mm) and secured with case clamps. However, you end up with a "gap dial", but for now I am very satisfied with the result. Mounted on a shaky 7836, it is definitely back on the wrist after decades in the drawer. Thank you, RWI!

 

[kiev4a]

Pic for attention sneak peak of 2 of the 4 dials I bought… basically have everything I need to do a two tone or silver.. will probably decide when I put it together what route I end up going.

Nice catch for the blue one. I follow it in my eBay and you bought earlier than me

 

[johnchpark]

Are stick indices on vintage Datejusts white gold, or stainless steel?
I got a 16200 silver sticks dial, but im wondering whether i need to get gen white gold hands, or if aftermarket stainless steel hands will do. Big price difference between the two

 

[johnchpark]

What are you guys doing for the bezel? Using stock Raffles?

I'm building a second build for a 16200/16234, but I don't want to spend $500 for a gen white gold bezel or $200 for a gen SS smooth bezel (seems overpriced for SS).

WSO bezel seems to be wrong height (2.7mm) while Raffles is 2.5mm.
Gen bezel height is 2.33mm (give or take).

Issue with Raffles stock bezel is, it seems like the angle of the flute is too high compared to gen (the slope is bigger on Raffles).
I'm planning to sand down the bezel's bottom edge to get to 2.3~2.4mm, but not sure how I can address the slope issue.

 

[Hasslebank]

 

[dodact]

Just finished my first ever watch build.