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The one that got away 1016 Tropical Explorer: a case study

369mafia

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My first attempt with the tropical caramel dial. This is the effect i would be going for

Transparency brown and ochre and then some black to create the dark to light gradient effects.

This is an acrylic black that is flat. I wpuld pick up a more gloss nlack or give it a light coat of gloss finish.
 
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Seriously Mafia: plunk any of those first attempts in a watch and Id buy it. I know it is not what your after, but that blanched-waterlogged-“wtf happened to this dial”-look really stirs something up. Im a Yank, but spent most of my life in SE Asia (and a tad in Western Samoa) as a child. I remember the grown-up expats bemoaning leaving their watches out in the sun by the pool and the effect it had on the watch faces. What I would give for one of those watches now!

***one of my friend’s dad was a German named Gunther (Gunter?) and wore an Omega diver I couldnt take my eyes off***
 
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Seriously Mafia: plunk any of those first attempts in a watch and Id buy it. I know it is not what your after, but that blanched-waterlogged-“wtf happened to this dial”-look really stirs something up. Im a Yank, but spent most of my life in SE Asia (and a tad in Western Samoa) as a child. I remember the grown-up expats bemoaning leaving their watches out in the sun by the pool and the effect it had on the watch faces. What I would give for one of those watches now!

***one of my friend’s dad was a German named Gunther (Gunter?) and wore an Omega diver I couldnt take my eyes off**

unfortunately I have wiped those dials clean in further practice attempts but if you would like one, drop me a line and we can talk .
 

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My first attempt with the tropical caramel dial. This is the effect i would be going for

Transparency brown and ochre and then some black to create the dark to light gradient effects.

This is an acrylic black that is flat. I wpuld pick up a more gloss nlack or give it a light coat of gloss finish.
Looks really good mate!
 

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UPDATE"

The caramel tropical dials are done . Pics arent the best as far as color but the gilt print looks crisp and the lume nice.





will be quite easy to achieve this look with some simple dial aging.



I will be picking up a couple dials and be working on my techniques to achieve this look.



IF you are interested in one, lmk
 

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UPDATE"

The caramel tropical dials are done . Pics arent the best as far as color but the gilt print looks crisp and the lume nice.





will be quite easy to achieve this look with some simple dial aging.



I will be picking up a couple dials and be working on my techniques to achieve this look.



IF you are interested in one, lmk
Looking forward to seeing the results!!
 

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UPDATE"

The caramel tropical dials are done . Pics arent the best as far as color but the gilt print looks crisp and the lume nice.





will be quite easy to achieve this look with some simple dial aging.



I will be picking up a couple dials and be working on my techniques to achieve this look.



IF you are interested in one, lmk

You already know I am lol! Is this possible to do w/ the honeycomb dial?
 
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You already know I am lol! Is this possible to do w/ the honeycomb dial?
a tropical effect is possible This was a complete watch that was built and sold by Ruby many moons ago. Someone convinced them to sell only the dial to them and it ended up on the forums here for a while and then the dial was accidently damaged while being relumed and we have not seen it since.

Its not anywhere near the same as the tropical mk6 dials but I think I may attempt an aging effect like this on my raffles dial

 
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a tropical effect is possible This was a complete watch that was built and sold by Ruby many moons ago. Someone convinced them to sell only the dial to them and it ended up on the forums here for a while and then the dial was accidently damaged while being relumed and we have not seen it since.

Its not anywhere near the same as the tropical mk6 dials but I think I may attempt an aging effect like this on my raffles dial

Goodness that is gorgeous!
 
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UPDATE: 07-29

The dials arrived and they look good. crisp text and the lume is a nice toasted tone.
The color is the same as the sample dial he sent me.
the gilt print is the same as the tropical red one he offers.
no surprises here. great quality and appearance for the price.

now I think I may have written cheques that my butt cant cash....first attempt
I thought I would bake one. in coffee grounds. ala diy watch club
(poor lighting)


It darkened the dial color
it also aged and soiled the lume a bit
very minor imperfections caused by the oils in the coffee (pardon the grinds)

Next I thought I use the air brush, was struggling with a proper dilution and was getting splatters and runs.... not impressed.
so since the oven was still warm I thought I would try dropping it in the coffee and baking it a bit
350 for two runs of 10 mins.
wanted to see how the paint would react to the heat and the oils in the grinds.
I had no expectations (only hopes) and the results met neither lol
plausible but not great. I do like how it darkened around the chapter ring area .....the speckles are baked in and will not flake off easy.


I left that one as is and moved onto a fresh dial

This is where it gets sketchy cause I dont recall what I did and my process.
I started off air brushing the dial with some chestnut brown and ochre and was not pleased with it so I used a diluted isopropyl and blotted the dial as I was planning on wiping it clean and restarting but after the first swipe I got this unique look creating a very unique patina. and decided to stop as I think it was quite interesting and attractive. Again not what I am after at all but Bob Ross would call it " a happy lil accident"

It looks like its been out baking in the sun for a decades. the gilt print is still there and visible but its subtle

This dial really caught my eye so I thought I would toss it in a case to see how it looks . I do want to clean up the lume on the dial so it is closer to the color on the hands (or vice versa) but I had to see what it looked like

Buttoned it up and tossed it on a caramel single pass strap that compliments the dial perfectly..... :love: :love:



And that is where I left it yesterday. I am going to work out my air brush dilution and spray issues and give it a third attempt to see what I can pull off.
I have 4 dials to mess with and one of them has to be a winner. so far this one a favorite

I am using a transparent black paint , but I think I might be better off it I get a candy black as it is more transparent than the transparent because its more of a dye then a paint and I might be able to get better clarity on the text and be able to layer it better. . I am reducing the transparent black but it leaves it a bit too runny . I may switch up dilution agents as well to see if that will help with the spray application

If nothing is popping tonight I will be back in the lab and giving it a valiant second attempt.

as always , comments and questions welcome.
 
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Side by side conparison with a gen tropical . it does look good the way they are but I always like to see a bit of patina on a dial and especially these new raffles dials they are just too new looking you need to dirty them up a bit. But unless you like the darker coffee baked color, the bake method is not the way on this one I think so I wont be attempting any more heat applications.

 
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have you also tried to actually damage the dial with oil and water? 👀

I am starting to get fascinated with this kind of dial work.
 

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have you also tried to actually damage the dial with oil and water? 👀

I am starting to get fascinated with this kind of dial work.

No I have not as the other ingredients needed is time and UV. And I dont want to wait 10 + years to age. Lol. But I dont know if it would do anything as the chemistry of the materials is assumingly different than the original dials from the 60’s.
 
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I tried Coca Cola on a scratched Vostok dial. About a 30-40 mins dip, watching closely. I really liked the color. After a time, the coke eats the paint protection like a soft bleach but brownish.

Unfortunately, I had stupidly used a permanent marker to cover a few scratches and did not manage to remove that.

After my holiday trip, I will try again on a Raffles. I am thinking that baking the sugar in the coke might give an interesting texture effect.
 
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I tried Coca Cola on a scratched Vostok dial. About a 30-40 mins dip, watching closely. I really liked the color. After a time, the coke eats the paint protection like a soft bleach but brownish.

Unfortunately, I had stupidly used a permanent marker to cover a few scratches and did not manage to remove that.

After my holiday trip, I will try again on a Raffles. I am thinking that baking the sugar in the coke might give an interesting texture effect.
I e seen the coke tropical video. Works on Vostok dials but wont touch the raffles dials. These things are bulletproof lol

Maybe add some lime too ?
 
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1675lover came across these on a discord server....someone had the jump on me and he had done this with "chemicals"

It looks like he may have baked it and it damaged the lume and then in the completed piece he relumed the dial .

a very good first attempt. I wonder if the builder is on this forum?