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[Dragonfly35]

Gen platinum develops patina with use (becomes darker)

Attached is a comparison - First pic is a gen 116622 bezel (older model, has been used for a while). The second pic is of a Noob insert modded in March. He charged me $100 for the mod but it seems like the Premium Mod shade. Anyways as you can see, gen is a bit darker (more patina look). I just mailed Tom a new Noob insert, let’s see how the colors come out.

Due to slightest differences, pictures should be shared in equal light and, if possible, side by side and arranged in the same way. These are not, so comparison between them is quite difficult
Looking these picture, the bezels seems belongs 2 different watch models...

 

[srhoque]

Due to slightest differences, pictures should be shared in equal light and, if possible, side by side and arranged in the same way. These are not, so comparison between them is quite difficult
Looking these picture, the bezels seems belongs 2 different watch models...

You don’t need side by side pics to understand my message - Darker (patina) shade of gen platinum is quite visible in any lighting conditions (I have one in hand). Maybe it’s my eyes...his older mod seems more accurate for the “aged” look.

I will try to do a old mod/new mod/gen comparison again when I get back the insert I just sent.

 

[Tornado33]

Something to consider...

For anyone wanting to franken, the new Noob 904L is the way to go...

1 - They come with the VR3135 movement (purchased in Nov 2019 and March 2020. Both had VR3135)
2 - Amazing case quality and almost perfect rehaut and polish
3 - The post COVID Noob bracelets are great - the bracelet feels heavier in hand like ARF and clasp is vastly improved. In fact the open/close is almost like ARF now
4 - The insert fonts are a perfect replica of the 5 digit YMs. With TomRep sand basting they shimmer like the gen in sunlight.

Thanks for your comment! What do you think, which one is better OOTB rep without frankening ARF platinum or Noob platinum? Maybe Tomrep bezel mod someday. My previous Noob Rolie rep clasp went broken after two weeks of daily use. Maybe I just had bad luck.

 

[srhoque]

Thanks for your comment! What do you think, which one is better OOTB rep without frankening ARF platinum or Noob platinum? Maybe Tomrep bezel mod someday. My previous Noob Rolie rep clasp went broken after two weeks of daily use. Maybe I just had bad luck.

ARF for 6 digit 116622 platinum dial and Noob for 5 digit 16622 dial. Keep in mind the gen 16622 has the bead blasted look and hence shimmers in sunlight (love that sparkly looks)

The 6 digit 116622 dial is toned down with a bit of creamy texture. The sparkle beads are gone and hence this dial will look a tad bit darker (and smoother) as a result of less sparkle.

In the end, it is totally a personal preference. Personally, I like Noob better (because it replicates the sparkle dial).

Sorry to hear about clasp. Look for one in M2M sales, lots of people sell their leftover parts from Daytona franken/mods. It’s the same clasp for both.

 

[Tornado33]

ARF for 6 digit 116622 platinum dial and Noob for 5 digit 16622 dial. Keep in mind the gen 16622 has the bead blasted look and hence shimmers in sunlight (love that sparkly looks)

The 6 digit 116622 dial is toned down with a bit of creamy texture. The sparkle beads are gone and hence this dial will look a tad bit darker (and smoother) as a result of less sparkle.

In the end, it is totally a personal preference. Personally, I like Noob better (because it replicates the sparkle dial).

Sorry to hear about clasp. Look for one in M2M sales, lots of people sell their leftover parts from Daytona franken/mods. It’s the same clasp for both.

Thanks buddy! I am bit confused about the reference numbers in this model. Tried to Google but didn't find the answer. Sorry I m not native English so what is the difference between 6 digit 116622 and 5 digit 16622 dial? 116622 is the dark Rhodium dial and and 16622 is the white(rolesium?) dial?

I am looking for 40mm white dial (rolesium?) version. So did I understand right that your vote goes for the Noob version?

Thanks alot! I really appreciate!

 

[srhoque]

Thanks buddy! I am bit confused about the reference numbers in this model. Tried to Google but didn't find the answer. Sorry I m not native English so what is the difference between 6 digit 116622 and 5 digit 16622 dial?

I am looking for 40mm white dial (rolesium?) version. So did I understand right that your vote goes for the Noob version?

Thanks alot! I really appreciate!

Simply put, the five digit is older dials that Rolex produced before 2014. The 6 digit dial was released in 2014. As of today, Rolex only sells the Rhodium and blue dial for YM and now the reference is 126622 (because they use the new 3235 movement). Rolesium refers to the use of stainless steel and Platinum (for bezel/insert) which is the case for both Rhodium and Blue dial.

If you want white dial, I think you are looking for the newer Yacht-Master II model, I think they are 42mm in size (not sure though). I don’t think Noob or ARF makes this model.

 

[Tornado33]

Sorry I am bit lost with the correct terms. I really dont understand that what is the difference between 116622 dial and 16622 dial.

I m not sure what is the ref. number of this model but Im looking for this model in 40mm: And now I realized that there are "grey" and "rolesium grey" versions. Getting even more difficult to decide which one to get.. haha.. I assume that you think that Noob is the better than Arf in these versions? I would like to get the bit more sparkling dial but now I really dont know that which one of these is the more sparkling one? I assume that the more sparkling one is that 508dollar version.

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?ma...ducts_id=20645

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?ma...ducts_id=20376

 

[thediesel17]

to bring some light in here:

the 5 digit ym is simply the older version with the older clasp, bracelet and so on (16622)

the 6 digit ones started with the white dial, had the new bracelet, new clasp. this particular one was then discontinued and replaced by the blue and grey dial, all are referenced 116622

in 2019 rolex updated the lineup once again. the grey and blue came with the caliber 3235 movement and an updated dial (On the 116622, it will say ”Swiss made”. But on the new reference, it will say ”Swiss (Rolex crown) Made”.). but no reintroduction of white dial

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you are looking for the white sparkling dial, which is the one that can be found in 5 digit ym (16622)
noobs replicate this particular dial, but also have the updated clasp and bracelet of the 6 digit ym —> so it’s kind of a hybrid, but people love that sparkle

ARF (see Mark1937 post) replicated the white dial of the 116622, which is not referred to as the sparkling one.

the watches you linked are both manufactured by noob. the difference in price relates to the movement, one is an ETA copy, the other one the rolex 3135 copy. both have the sparkling dial

 

[Tornado33]

to bring some light in here:

the 5 digit ym is simply the older version with the older clasp, bracelet and so on (16622)

the 6 digit ones started with the white dial, had the new bracelet, new clasp. this particular one was then discontinued and replaced by the blue and grey dial, all are referenced 116622

in 2019 rolex updated the lineup once again. the grey and blue came with the caliber 3235 movement and an updated dial (On the 116622, it will say ”Swiss made”. But on the new reference, it will say ”Swiss (Rolex crown) Made”.). but no reintroduction of white dial

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you are looking for the white sparkling dial, which is the one that can be found in 5 digit ym (16622)
noobs replicate this particular dial, but also have the updated clasp and bracelet of the 6 digit ym —> so it’s kind of a hybrid, but people love that sparkle

ARF (see Mark1937 post) replicated the white dial of the 116622, which is not referred to as the sparkling one.

the watches you linked are both manufactured by noob. the difference in price relates to the movement, one is an ETA copy, the other one the rolex 3135 copy. both have the sparkling dial

Thanks mate! No I understand better And this ARF has the same sparkling dial too? Because of my bad previoius experiences with Noob factory reps I will probably go with the ARF. And those pictures of ARF ym.s in previous pages are gorgeous too.

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=20460

 

[srhoque]

Thanks mate! No I understand better And this ARF has the same sparkling dial too? Because of my bad previoius experiences with Noob factory reps I will probably go with the ARF. And those pictures of ARF ym.s in previous pages are gorgeous too.

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=20460

Please go with whatever factory suits you but don’t overlook the Noob because of past experience. The new 904L Noobs are amazing and “franken” ready with VR3135 inside. Bracelets are vastly improved too and they always had great case+rehaut.

 

[thediesel17]

Please go with whatever factory suits you but don’t overlook the Noob because of past experience. The new 904L Noobs are amazing and “franken” ready with VR3135 inside. Bracelets are vastly improved too and they always had great case+rehaut.

to be honest, imo the VR3135 movement gives the Noob the edge over the ARF for now then.

ARF for 6 digit 116622 platinum dial and Noob for 5 digit 16622 dial. Keep in mind the gen 16622 has the bead blasted look and hence shimmers in sunlight (love that sparkly looks)
The 6 digit 116622 dial is toned down with a bit of creamy texture. The sparkle beads are gone and hence this dial will look a tad bit darker (and smoother) as a result of less sparkle.
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Tornado33 as stated by srhoque and mark1937 before: the ARF replicates the 116622 dial

 

[ssouthall6]

The 5 digit 16622 has a slightly different bezel (digits are fatter and less refined), a far nicer dial, the case shape is slightly more refined, bracelet sits differently at the sel, clasp is the old style not the easy link.

Early 16622 also had no rehaut engraving.

The best 16622 were the Sean & WM9.

The noob is quite nice but is more like a 116622/16622 hybrid.

I agree with shroque, the newer of Tom's mods is better suited to the 116622. Little point in having a sparkly bezel on a 20 year old watch.


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[DominickDecocco]

guys i know this watch for 5 minutes now so i have no clue but i need one with a grey or white dial.

i`ll do my homework and compare some versions but maybe you could gibe me a shortcut to what i want?

 

[DominickDecocco]

sorry for bothering you i was just so excited. now i know what i want. yacht master rhodium. this must be the most beautiful watch in the world.

so i guess i will take the noob for 500 bucks? i saw the arf and it the different blue colors look a bit strange i guess?

 

[srhoque]

sorry for bothering you i was just so excited. now i know what i want. yacht master rhodium. this must be the most beautiful watch in the world.

so i guess i will take the noob for 500 bucks? i saw the arf and it the different blue colors look a bit strange i guess?

For Rhodium dial, I recommend the Noob. All you need is the TomRep mod and if you are OCD about it, change the seconds hand (The Noob dot on second hand is smaller than gen). Also Noob comes with VR3135 (atleast until early April), so you can swap any or all with gen parts. Good luck!!

 

[DominickDecocco]

For Rhodium dial, I recommend the Noob. All you need is the TomRep mod and if you are OCD about it, change the seconds hand (The Noob dot on second hand is smaller than gen). Also Noob comes with VR3135 (atleast until early April), so you can swap any or all with gen parts. Good luck!!

thank you! i guess i will just take it ootb. still noob then? i will maybe do the tomrep once i know the watch and think it's necessary. by now i don't even see the difference. also when i bought my gen submariner i suddenly stopped feeling ashamed for wearing reps so i don't care too much

 

[srhoque]

thank you! i guess i will just take it ootb. still noob then? i will maybe do the tomrep once i know the watch and think it's necessary. by now i don't even see the difference. also when i bought my gen submariner i suddenly stopped feeling ashamed for wearing reps so i don't care too much

Ootb I still prefer Noob for dial color accuracy, case/rehaut profile and now the improved bracelet (post covid).

To be fully transparent - I own 3 Noob YMs which have since been frankened. My only experience with ARF is in pics.

 

[mordret]

As far as I know from my conversation with Tom, he prefers ARF because of dial color (especially blue, but rhodium also) and because of bezel construction, which he says only ARF has same construction like gen. The wrong second hand on the Noob is easy to fix, but you have to source a better one first...

 

[mordret]

Addendum: as Tom has really a lot of YMs (of all makers and many gens also) in his hands, I think he’s really an expert in comparing this specific watch.

 

[caprioles9000]

Dear RWI Colleagues,

I have been interested in a 116655 for a long time. I started looking at my options again and found some information that got me confused for which i thought i should ask the support of RWI subject matter experts here.

1) I know that the old 116655 used to have a 3135 movement. I realized that Rolex has updated the code to 126655 as they have made the following changes: ''3235 movement'' and the ''easylink glidelock'' has been added. So when i did my research i found out that GMF has released a 3235 version. I did not know that there is a new 3235 clone movement. That being said:

a) I know there is a 3135 but when did an asian 3235 come out? Is it truly a clone like the 3135 or is it something else (2824 or 2836) thats decorated to look like a 3235.
b) Also no mention of the easy glidelock. Anyone know of a release with the glidelock?
c) Anyone have experience with the GMF version. Anyone who has experience with the quality? Cannot find anything on the forum on this.​

2) It used to be that the ARF SH3135 released on 2018 was the best version of the 116655 (second being Noob) from an authentic 1 to 1 replica. Now normally i shop from Puretime but decide to look at some other TD's. Just realized that there is actually a Noob V2 of this one. That being said:

a) Does anyone know when this Noob v2 was released? Anyone who has experience with the quality? Cannot find anything on the forum on this.
b) Link to Noob V2 :https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=20729​

Support on the matter would be truly appreciated.

Rgrds,
Caprioles9000