The official AP Diver discussion thread

[fire007]

I have this in my collection and agree with you that it is currently the best looking diver produced by AP. This is subjective though, the new divers may give this a run for its money.

I know you do...

 

[fire007]

I cannot agree. JF crystal is perfect.

I can't, for the sake of me, justify 300USD of (debatable) cosmetic enhancements to then find yourself with that ugly ass datewheel.

This was mine for the record, and yes I do believe the rep looks nicer than the gen.

Yeah i admit I am a sucker for extreme AR jobs...

 

[fire007]

I have this in my collection and agree with you that it is currently the best looking diver produced by AP. This is subjective though, the new divers may give this a run for its money.

new ones are cool but somehow do not hooze " Relaxed luxury" as much as the rose gold do...

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

new ones are cool but somehow do not hooze " Relaxed luxury" as much as the rose gold do...

GORGEOUS

 

[legend]

GORGEOUS

Which one did you mean lol, there were 4 shown.

 

[P..DR..D]

Which one did you mean lol, there were 4 shown.

I myself like the 3rd down, naturally

 

[legend]

Yeah i admit I am a sucker for extreme AR jobs...

There is nothing wrong at all of course liking double AR.
The objective issues with it, other than the visual inaccuracy vs the gen crystal, is of course, the durability of the outer layer. No matter how careful you are, the layer will eventually wear or tarnish, due to friction, heat or contact. There is a reason why many gen luxury brands don't use double AR on their crystals, for pragmatic consideration. But like I said, these are reps, and meant to be worn for fun and novelty. You should wear them like you love 'em.

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

Which one did you mean lol, there were 4 shown.

3rd, 4th, 2nd, 1st for me. All gorgeous. Like them all better than plain 15703 ironically


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[legend]

3rd, 4th, 2nd, 1st for me. All gorgeous. Like them all better than plain 15703 ironically


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Well yes I agree. The gen 15703 is a basic black/steel watch and it does not stand out in any way. Using different materials and colors can help breathe some life into a staple but vapid looking watch.

 

[Swiss_goupil]

The new driver hands are gorgeous ( love the curvature at the end of the lume on the hour hand) and I guess a hell lot more difficult to rep than the current ones (which as legend would say, are ‘totally wrong in their geometry and an eyesore to the AP lover’)


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[Dragonfly35]

4th, 1st, 2nd and 3rd in my personal hit

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

To answer your question about the hand lume, I got what you were trying to explain and the answer is that if you know your gens, it’s one of the tells yes.

If the straps you were referring to are the rubber straps, the buckle is definitely detachable like the plots. Can I then ask what the “TT” refers to? Reading back your post in this context doesn’t make sense. Will you care to explain so we can have a better idea?

The XF FC diver details have been covered quite extensively and you can read about it and make your own decision. In short I like the hands, dial, case, datewheel and instant date change feature due to the A2836 movement used. Do your own reading and make your own decision. My opinion isn’t absolute and is only one of a gen AP owner. I owned a used gen FC diver before for about 3 months and sold it after the xf was released and used it as a base to build a replacement. I sold the build after more members started wearing one. The XF FC diver isn’t 1:1, don’t get me wrong but it’s the best ootb AP rep currently IMHO


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Hey I read all your responses on the recent XF Diver Threads, thanks again for your replies in those threads and this one.

From what I understand, the XF FC diver has been sold out and out of production for a while, with no knowing if they'll start production again (seems unlikely)

However the JF version is available. You said the hands, dial, case, and date wheel... I couldn't find your comments or others' comments about these in other threads, maybe I need to look at older posts to find it.

I understand the date change being different due to the different movement used.

Also since this is a JF v6 and not a V10 like the 15703, the arbitrarily named "ghost lines" are surely absent as well.

Other than that, I am struggling to understand what makes it worse. I guess I'll start at some photos of gen and see what differences I can find. The hands seem a lot whiter than the JF 15703 v10 based on puretime photos.

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

Hey I read all your responses on the recent XF Diver Threads, thanks again for your replies in those threads and this one.

From what I understand, the XF FC diver has been sold out and out of production for a while, with no knowing if they'll start production again (seems unlikely)

However the JF version is available. You said the hands, dial, case, and date wheel... I couldn't find your comments or others' comments about these in other threads, maybe I need to look at older posts to find it.

I understand the date change being different due to the different movement used.

Also since this is a JF v6 and not a V10 like the 15703, the arbitrarily named "ghost lines" are surely absent as well.

Other than that, I am struggling to understand what makes it worse. I guess I'll start at some photos of gen and see what differences I can find. The hands seem a lot whiter than the JF 15703 v10 based on puretime photos.

Ok it seems based on pics I can find online, the hands and inner bezel yellow are darker on the XF v3 than the JF v6, which is more true to gen. Correct me if I'm wrong

Also I'm realizing now the XF v3 was released over a year later, so it makes sense that it is better.

Too bad it's sold out/out of production...

 

[fire007]

Ok it seems based on pics I can find online, the hands and inner bezel yellow are darker on the XF v3 than the JF v6, which is more true to gen. Correct me if I'm wrong

Also I'm realizing now the XF v3 was released over a year later, so it makes sense that it is better.

Too bad it's sold out/out of production...

Some Eyes candy for you... V2 with the usual AR mods from Prof..

yeah certainly better then the SS version ( which is so Dull.. ) , but somehow more for the younger crowds... i am in my late 30's now so she had to go... ahahaha She is a cool watch though

 

[legend]

Some Eyes candy for you... V2 with the usual AR mods from Prof..

yeah certainly better then the SS version ( which is so Dull.. ) , but somehow more for the younger crowds... i am in my late 30's now so she had to go... ahahaha She is a cool watch though

All valid points except one D.

“Late 30s” these days is like late twenties 10 years ago. So live and party like there’s no tomorrow lol

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

All valid points except one D.

“Late 30s” these days is like late twenties 10 years ago. So live and party like there’s no tomorrow lol

BTW I posted on the consensual list that the JF hands are grey and strap is garbage and I've seen 3 for sale since then XD on here and Reddit

 

[Dragonfly35]

I don't know if it will be useful to someone, but I report my experience with ZF
At the end of last year I got a ZF ap 15400 white dial (v2) with the usual sharpen bracelet.
A few days ago, I got a new Zf Ap 15500 blak dial (v2). Compared with the 15400 from the same factory, its bracelet is a lot smoother on wrist.
The finish is certainly different as it does not scratch like that of the 15400. But visually they are identical.
I don't know if in Zf they have started to remake the bracelets better or it is a coincidence that the latter arrived does not have the sharpness of 15400.

 

[ChineseGeraldGenta]

I don't know if it will be useful to someone, but I report my experience with ZF
At the end of last year I got a ZF ap 15400 white dial (v2) with the usual sharpen bracelet.
A few days ago, I got a new Zf Ap 15500 blak dial (v2). Compared with the 15400 from the same factory, its bracelet is a lot smoother on wrist.
The finish is certainly different as it does not scratch like that of the 15400. But visually they are identical.
I don't know if in Zf they have started to remake the bracelets better or it is a coincidence that the latter arrived does not have the sharpness of 15400.

People will say this is in the wrong thread. But thanks for info I just ordered a 15500


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[Dragonfly35]

People will say this is in the wrong thread. But thanks for info I just ordered a 15500


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You are right, apologize me. I was convinced to stay on AP15500 thread.

 

[legend]

I don't know if it will be useful to someone, but I report my experience with ZF
At the end of last year I got a ZF ap 15400 white dial (v2) with the usual sharpen bracelet.
A few days ago, I got a new Zf Ap 15500 blak dial (v2). Compared with the 15400 from the same factory, its bracelet is a lot smoother on wrist.
The finish is certainly different as it does not scratch like that of the 15400. But visually they are identical.
I don't know if in Zf they have started to remake the bracelets better or it is a coincidence that the latter arrived does not have the sharpness of 15400.

Good share indeed but wrong thread. Let’s keep it divers here thanks mate.


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