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legend

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Really great summary, I will stay away from the ROOs and be thankful that my gen hasn't been repped lol

I think I know what you mean by the bezel numbers, they seem to be a bit different even with the ghost lines

Since you said and for the diver bezel numbers (but mentioned hands in the other section) does this mean you think the hands are more or less like gen?

Thanks for your input

Firstly I disagree with the term “ghost lines”. The lines are clear and distinct and nothing ghostly at all. They are simply the base upon which the lume is built. The lines which are seen are just the borders of the base not covered by the lume. Calling them “ghost lines” is meaningless but I guess as long as yoi understand the nomenclature used it’s fine.

I’ve replied on the hands a few times and I hope you stop asking after this: the lume on the hands is wrong and the geometry of the hands is incorrect VS the gen. There is NOTHING gen like about the hands. It’s good if you cannot see it. You won’t be presenting the watch to me in real life so as long as you like it, wear it happily.

The watch is a good rep in real life, that is my reply. The accuracy of the details I’ll leave it to each wearer to decide on his own. I don’t use the term “gen like” and definitely not “flawless” when it comes to reps. Gen is gen and rep is rep and I draw the line distinctly between the two. There are good reps and bad ones and everything in between. Anything else is subject to individual interpretation and I won’t debate with those.


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Hey guys, everyone's been talking about 15703 black dial, how bout 15710 white dial jf v9? Is the quality good?
 

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It is not inferior for me. Largely its a matter of preference. I personally don't like the Miyota movement used in the white dial but thats just me.
Also, just a tip for you moving forward. Omit the "1:1" quotes in your post. No rep is 1:1.
Get what pleases you. It may be easier if you just directly post your concerns about specific features of the white dial. You shouldn't be buying any rep just because everyone thinks that it is "closer to gen". You should pick one up because you like it.
 
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APSIMP Threads merged as your question is mostly answered in one post, and does not need an entire thread on its own. The answer for your question has been given above. You can continue here if you wish to ask more. Thanks
 
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One thing about the white disl diver is that the color of the dial is wrong compared to gen albeit better executed imho

in the rep dial and tachy have same candid, fresh linen, white

in the gen there is a clear mismatch whereby the dial is a creamy off white and the tachy/inner ring is coke white
 

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Any idea if thats in the Pipe ? The One and Only Diver as far as i am concerned...

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One thing about the white disl diver is that the color of the dial is wrong compared to gen albeit better executed imho

in the rep dial and tachy have same candid, fresh linen, white

in the gen there is a clear mismatch whereby the dial is a creamy off white and the tachy/inner ring is coke white

She was in my stable , she is a good one, liked it, did not get much wrist time but a cool watch. I had Prof crystal and cyclops on mine which is a must imo...

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She was in my stable , she is a good one, liked it, did not get much wrist time but a cool watch. I had Prof crystal and cyclops on mine which is a must imo...

I cannot agree. JF crystal is perfect.

I can't, for the sake of me, justify 300USD of (debatable) cosmetic enhancements to then find yourself with that ugly ass datewheel.

This was mine for the record, and yes I do believe the rep looks nicer than the gen.

 

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One thing about the white disl diver is that the color of the dial is wrong compared to gen albeit better executed imho

in the rep dial and tachy have same candid, fresh linen, white

in the gen there is a clear mismatch whereby the dial is a creamy off white and the tachy/inner ring is coke white

I owned the gen 15710 white dial for a while (sold it when I got the 15711)

I like the gen the way it was. The dial and tachy color are not the same yes, but I do not find the difference intrusive, and under some lightings, it is not noticeable.
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She was in my stable , she is a good one, liked it, did not get much wrist time but a cool watch. I had Prof crystal and cyclops on mine which is a must imo...

The JF crystal is actually close to perfect if you know how the gen AP diver crystal looks. AP crystal clarity is good but not fantastic and reflective from many angles. I have on my wrist currently a gen ROO and the crystal is reflective as hell when I glance at it. Also, we need to remember that the gen diver/ROO cyclops are both curved on the upper surface and for me, the JF v2 ROO cyclop, and the ZF diver cyclop look reasonably good vs the gen on casual inspection. I said "reasonably" because to be fair, I have not compared them in depth side by side vs the gen, but the gen ROO and diver cyclops both have the bubble reflection effect when you swirl the watch in your hand, at certain angles.
So the prof upgrades aren't "a must" in my opinion, and are subjective to owner preference. If you like your watches to look a certain way, it is definitely your prerogative and it is a "must" for you. As far as detail accuracy goes, the rep factories are churning out watches with more attention to details, though they are apt to still get a lot of little features wrong as they progress. I like the JF crystal and the latest JF diver cyclop as they are. The cyclop may not be 1:1 vs gen, but neither is prof's. Therefore it becomes a matter of preference.
 
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And where did you see this one? Yes its not the best but the diver bezel ring and crowns got potential for a nice build. Thanks for sharing SHB.

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Pretty sure you can find it on dhgate.
 

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Pretty sure you can find it on dhgate.

OK Thanks, I will try to see if I can find it. The dial color isn't bad actually and the hands look decent. I know the movement is likely nonsense but when parted out, this watch has potential. Thanks again.
 
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OK Thanks, I will try to see if I can find it. The dial color isn't bad actually and the hands look decent. I know the movement is likely nonsense but when parted out, this watch has potential. Thanks again.

You're welcome bro, happy hunting