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[jasonbaylee]

AP Diver JF Now with inner bezel "3D" effect (V10).

I got mixed up in my exchange rates sorry The cheapest on Chrono24 is at 17k USD and there's a few at like 19k. Chrono24 tends to be a bit inflated but 13.5k seems surprisingly cheap
PPat pictures of your upcoming gen once your friend has sold it to you

Tobel, thx.
truly I concurred. Smile

 

[shigetty]

￥1,925,000 on GMT Japan's website is a retail price as a reference.

 

[2841]

Well, not really.
Look at it another way. I own the gen 15711OI diver, but I hardly ever wear it. It is in my collection for the sake of collection, and I am not a fan of the diver personally. It isn't a model I enjoy wearing, or discoursing over and the 15703 is a watch I will never buy, whether in gen or rep. I do not stop guys like repworld or anyone else claiming what they claim, but I see what I see and but prefer not to spend time discussing the differences, as the latest iteration of the JF or ZF diver is a very good rep in real life. Is that not sufficient for you?

What it really comes down to, sir, is you being convinced that the 15703 (or any other rep watch you want to buy), is not worth getting in gen, and that is a very individual and subjective decision. What is even simpler than what you mentioned, is you liking the watch and buying it. If you are unconvinced of me being able to call the latest rep divers (JF, ZF, or whatever hybrid you can find) out, no problem, post any wristshot and ask me. I either will get it right or I won't and it will either prove or disprove my point. But that shouldn't change how you feel about this specific release. If you think its 1:1, by all means buy and enjoy it. Your opinion did not feature for any of the watches I chose to purchase, and likewise, mine shouldn't as well if you think that a rep is awesome and suits your every need.

What I wish to say can be summarized in a simple sentence: The V10 diver and ZF divers, while not perfect, are both very good reps in real life and sufficient for anyone seeking to get a feel of what the AP diver is about.

Have a good day!

Still not getting my point, but to be honest it's not really important. You do you

 

[legend]

Still not getting my point, but to be honest it's not really important. You do you

Yes. I’m not here to please you nor am I interested to “get your point”. QueTip is more knowledgeable than me in this regard. I’m tagging him to help you better if he’s so inclined. I hope he can get the points I missed.

 

[QueTip]

At the end of the day it comes down to you claiming to spot flaws in both watches, but you won't share the information. That's what i simply don't understand, but hey, it's of course up to you

At the end of the day you were told to read the corresponding threads before as almost everything has been discussed already but you don’t seem to want to do that despite you claiming to have read all the threads but yet not know anything about what had been discussed in these.
Maybe you should ‘read’ them again.

 

[2841]

 

[Repworld]

What do you need to know more , there’s nothing to discuss more , JF v10 is ultimate and really nothing to update and will be no effective, everything better than ZF at the moment you can see how close to genuine, brush , Lume , correct thickness, DW cyclops, rubber material and mechanism , glossy dial , perfect bezel and screws .


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[Repworld]

What do you need to know more , there’s nothing to discuss more , JF v10 is ultimate and really nothing to update and will be no effective, everything better than ZF at the moment you can see how close to genuine, brush , Lume , correct thickness, DW cyclops, rubber material and mechanism , glossy dial , perfect bezel and screws .


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V10 match Gen sample SIHH 2010 with JF , they didn’t miss anything, do you think JF can release v10 without gen ?, how JF rep Rubber mechanism without Genuine, how they get correct engraving without gen , how JF get correct Print? If there’s any flaws sure will discuss it here.


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[QueTip]

there’s nothing to discuss more , JF v10 is ultimate and really nothing to update and will be no effective, everything better than ZF

Wrong

 

[SuperLory]

What do you need to know more , there’s nothing to discuss more , JF v10 is ultimate and really nothing to update and will be no effective, everything better than ZF at the moment you can see how close to genuine, brush , Lume , correct thickness, DW cyclops, rubber material and mechanism , glossy dial , perfect bezel and screws .


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for all the noobz who bump into this thread in search of knowledge dont listen to this guy.

 

[Repworld]

Wrong

Wrong, but don’t say this JF http://quanta729.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-191.html


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[QueTip]

Wrong, but don’t say this JF http://quanta729.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-191.html


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It’s a gen. You know how one is able to tell? By comparing the flaws of the not so perfect JF and knowing what the gen looks like.

 

[Repworld]

It’s a gen. You know how one is able to tell? By comparing the flaws of the not so perfect JF and knowing what the gen looks like.

I’m here not wrestling , will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here , for me done just ordered the watch , this rep more than enough for me and flawless for 400 dollar , Gen VS Rep

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[legend]

I’m here not wrestling , will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here , for me done just ordered the watch , this rep more than enough for me and flawless for 400 dollar , Gen VS Rep

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Wrestling? Count me in lol

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[QueTip]

will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here

How many times have you said that before? Can you please stick with it for once? No one is being aggressive, you're just stating wrong facts over and over again and just did it again. If the JF is good enough for you, so be it. I am happy for you but do not go on here spouting statements like 'flawless' 'exactly the same as gen' when it evidently and certainly is NOT.

 

[jasonbaylee]

How many times have you said that before? Can you please stick with it for once? No one is being aggressive, you're just stating wrong facts over and over again and just did it again. If the JF is good enough for you, so be it. I am happy for you but do not go on here spouting statements like 'flawless' 'exactly the same as gen' when it evidently and certainly is NOT.

Quetip thank you for your comments and perspectives that are always saturated with rationale n a gentleman’s spirit.

 

[jasonbaylee]

I’m here not wrestling , will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here , for me done just ordered the watch , this rep more than enough for me and flawless for 400 dollar , Gen VS Rep

Repworld, why permit “aggressive” people irked you ?
It is a forum of exchanged information & sharing of opinions which are right or otherwise. It is just that sometimes some are just almost or totally carried away unfortunately while most are not, hehehehe.
Enjoy your latest procurement of JF then.

 

[legend]

Wrong, but don’t say this JF http://quanta729.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-191.html


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The distinction between gen and JF is distinct, regardless of V7 or V10. Doesn't matter.
If you think the JF is good enough, then buy and wear it. You don't need anyone else to validate or confirm what you see.
Nor do you need others to agree with your point of view.

Fact: JF, or ZF, are both NOT visually 1:1 or perfect vs gen. No need to challenge this basic fact. There is no single rep which is 1:1.
Just buy what you like and wear it. I don't wear reps myself so I cannot tell you what I like or dislike about them. Your own opinion and viewpoint is perfectly sufficient when it comes to your own watch.

 

[legend]

I’m here not wrestling , will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here , for me done just ordered the watch , this rep more than enough for me and flawless for 400 dollar , Gen VS Rep

Repworld,
It is a forum of exchanged information & sharing of opinions which are right or otherwise..

Yes and No. Here in the AP section, there will be opinions like any other forum, but also there will be FACTS being established firmly as the point of reference. This is one of the brands which there are one of the most misconceptions about (sunken bezel screws are a must, double AR crystal, touching diver bezel numbers are defective etc). All ignorant fallacies and we want to stop the spread of ignorant nonsense and stick to facts. It is one of the most contentious brands when it comes to rep details, and it is important that new members come here learning the right stuff.

So if you want to give your erroneous and largely baseless opinions, don't do it in this section again. It is fair to state in advance that any such posts with fallacious nature will be moderated, because it is time we deal with facts, from people who actually know the brand and own the gen. I will rather have you keep your opinion to yourself then spread them as though the entire world should share your wrong point of view. Facts are welcome no matter who says them, but opinions will be corrected if they are wrong. I cannot help if anyone is a fool, but I will ask for them to keep their asinine foolishness to themselves. Guys who adamantly want the world to agree with them that ZF or JF diver reps are flawless and perfect, guys who think that diver numerals touching is a defect and a cause for the watch not to be sold.. all idiots and it is important to prevent these from being spread to the rest of the community. Feel free being an idiot, but at least contain it to yourself without spreading the idiocy. To be safe, stick to "nice watch" comments and brainless flattery if you cannot distinguish facts and fallacy. You will never get into trouble for those.

 

[Repworld]

I’m here not wrestling , will not share anything again very aggressive pepole here , for me done just ordered the watch , this rep more than enough for me and flawless for 400 dollar , Gen VS Rep

Repworld, why permit “aggressive” people irked you ?
It is a forum of exchanged information & sharing of opinions which are right or otherwise. It is just that sometimes some are just almost or totally carried away unfortunately while most are not, hehehehe.
Enjoy your latest procurement of JF then.

Yes exchanging information , I’m not an angel , I have human eyes maybe correct maybe wrong, my opinion not important for anyone but important for me , i just shared info about this watch , you are free to trust this genuine or say JF https://houbidou.com/th/products/2405002835083


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