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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

369mafia

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Looks like you received the thicker crown from raffles.

Interestingly 2 cases that I bought from raffles came with 2 crowns of different thickness :/
I spoke with Raffles this week and put in an order , he does offer the crowns in two thicknesses. I asked for the narrower ones and he is sending them .

I dont know if this is the same tropical dial as I posted earlier but RAffles took some new pics of their 1016 dial and it looks pretty sweet in the sun, so I added one to the order look fwd to seeing it in hand.


 
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1675lover

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I spoke with Raffles this week and put in an order , he does offer the crowns in two thicknesses. I asked for the narrower ones and he is sending them .

I dont know if this is the same tropical dial as I posted earlier but RAffles took some new pics of their 1016 dial and it looks pretty sweet in the sun, so I added one to the order look fwd to seeing it in hand.


looking forward to ur upcoming build with this
 

1675lover

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just took a closer look, at the new photo on raffles. seems like the printing is closer to a type 6 gilt dial on explorer1016.com
but the crown logo is still a little off; skinny & taller on raffles dial, shorter, flatter & wider on the gen dial

13xxxxx-type-5-9.jpg
 
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369mafia

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just took a closer look, at the new photo on raffles. seems like the printing is closer to a type 6 gilt dial on explorer1016.com
but the crown logo is still a little off; skinny & taller on raffles dial, shorter, flatter & wider on the gen dial

13xxxxx-type-5-9.jpg
Yes that was my findings also.. practiacally every tropical 1016 gen ive seen is a mk6 gilt dial something about the finish they used in that era

agreed the raffles cornet is not perfect but for for the price its a reasonable compromise.
 

flobojo

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Hey,

finished my 1016 test build right now.

JMB Case
Movement is a ETA 2452 - slaughtered an old festina
Dial - „Test aged dial“ from some bad explorer vintage rep
Hands - dito - tried to make them rusty - screwed up
Crystal - Clarks T21
Bracelet - rivet from raffles
Crown - the one that came with the case

Well what I learned…. Faux patina is an real art…o_O

Ahja… I messed up a raffles gilt tropical I ordered too

Sooo what do you think?


 

1675lover

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Hey,

finished my 1016 test build right now.

JMB Case
Movement is a ETA 2452 - slaughtered an old festina
Dial - „Test aged dial“ from some bad explorer vintage rep
Hands - dito - tried to make them rusty - screwed up
Crystal - Clarks T21
Bracelet - rivet from raffles
Crown - the one that came with the case

Well what I learned…. Faux patina is an real art…o_O

Ahja… I messed up a raffles gilt tropical I ordered too

Sooo what do you think?


I think it looks alright except for the hands, the colour is kinda bright in the photos
 

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The jmb case is really important, and the crystal too,

Do you source the crystal yourself?
I can't find the source for Clark t21, any shop to share for those?
 

1675lover

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The jmb case is really important, and the crystal too,

Do you source the crystal yourself?
I can't find the source for Clark t21, any shop to share for those?
U can find the crystal in eBay. I got a couple from there so far
 

flobojo

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The jmb case is really important, and the crystal too,

Do you source the crystal yourself?
I can't find the source for Clark t21, any shop to share for those?
I bought it also on ebay from an us seller
 

Action_Jensen

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Here an artsy shot of my 1016.
Built by @369mafia who offered a lot of help and advice in the process.

-Raffles Case modded to take a plexy crystal
-Ruby MK II Dial (gorgeous and worth the price)
-ETA 2824 clone (that keeps exceptionally good time)
-Slight ageing
-Here on a period incorect solid link oyster with fold over security clasp

My daily wear but still some things id like to add.

To Dos:

-case shaping
-correct crown
-serial numbers
-drill/widen lug holes for fat springbars
- low beat movement
-hands in correct dimensions

love it to bits

 
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My 1016 build start, receive some parts from raffle this week and pass the day to play with some file to shape the case, lot of inspiration were found here, @369mafia is the 1016 builder and found lot of his post on the case comparaison, @jmb do the best case for the 1016, that was my inspiration, here the result (unpolished, I have no dremel, all done by hand, paper sand and file,)



 
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@1016 lover nicely done! Did you only change the lug profile or the caseflanks too?
I am considdering doing something quite similar but i am pretty fine with the lugs. But i have the feeling that the raffles case has a little too big caseflanks in relation to the bezel. also id like to get rid of that indentation were the crown and tube sit. as far as i can tell its not that prominent or there at all in a gen 1016
 

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@Action_Jensen thanks, I am pretty happy with the result, I wear it since yesterday and really like the result, I didn't touch the case flank, only lugs, and put a crystal from an other rep on it, think to invest in a Clark to see if it can produce a better look,
 
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@1675lover Yes it's possible, look too big, you re right, measure 6mm diameter, and 3.2mm crown length from the top of the crown to the case.. Is it a 5.3mm crown on the 1016?
 

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I ve just check on the 6mm crown I order for my other build, and the design is not the same, the spare one seem to be less long