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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

369mafia

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Weathering will go on and stay on just fine.
Up to you if you want to drop coat a lacquer over it but obviously that'll make it permamanent.
What I tend to do is try things, weat it, live with it for a while and if I decide it's an effect that's a keeper THEN drop coat a lacquer over it all to finalise it.

Yes, an ETA 2824-2 stem will fit the PT5000 just fine, it being a direct clone of the 2824-2

That is what I use on my dials for aging and for the sun bleached effects. I guess you missed it? I did that on the raffles mk2 dial and it looks great but yes it will rub off if touched directly

DO NOT APPLY any spray clear coat over it the solvents in the clear dissolve the weathering paint and the effect disappears. first hand knowledge.

in regards to the stems. in my experience , no. they are not interchangeable. not sure why but they are not .
also first hand knowledge.
 

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That is what I use on my dials for aging and for the sun bleached effects. I guess you missed it? I did that on the raffles mk2 dial and it looks great but yes it will rub off if touched directly

DO NOT APPLY any spray clear coat over it the solvents in the clear dissolve the weathering paint and the effect disappears. first hand knowledge.

in regards to the stems. in my experience , no. they are not interchangeable. not sure why but they are not .
also first hand knowledge.
I've been okay with water-based but yes, agree, solvent would finish the dial.
Sorry, my bad - should have said that.
Pullthat92 - I hope you read this before trying solvent-based.

So, it seems the 2824 stem in a PT5000 seems a bit of a gamble as well. That seems strange as the PT didn't appear until well after the 2824-2.
 
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I've been okay with water-based but yes, agree, solvent would finish the dial.
Sorry, my bad - should have said that.
Pullthat92 - I hope you read this before trying solvent-based.

So, it seems the 2824 stem in a PT5000 seems a bit of a gamble as well. That seems strange as the PT didn't appear until well after the 2824-2.
I used a water based satin polyurethane, common with wood working, (which I also do) the sun bleached effect disappeared
 
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I used a water based satin polyurethane, common with wood working, (which I also do) the sun bleached effect disappeared
I use mainly Tamiya - model-making paints and lacquer - as well as weatherings. All seems to work okay - but a fine line indeed between that surface-drop coat and full meltdown!
 

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I use mainly Tamiya - model-making paints and lacquer - as well as weatherings. All seems to work okay - but a fine line indeed between that surface-drop coat and full meltdown!
What's the technique to "lock it in"?
 

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What's the technique to "lock it in"?
I don't know now - I'm full of doubt that I've just been hithertoo just very lucky!

If I were to say anything - it would be DRYING TMES!
Let stuff dry out completely - that means for anything solvent or even part-solvent (yep, including so-called "water-based" at least a a day at room temp to let the evaporates entirely, well, evaporate away.
The resulting paint, weathering, make-up, etc has by then become pretty much inert and won't react so vigorously with what you drop on it.
 
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Sorry 369, just realised what you were commenting on - to get the weathering powder to "lock in" to the paint effect?
So the paint, texture and weathering can all be applied in succession of each other without protracted drying times between.
Above post, I'm referring to the final clear coat to seal the whole in permanently once one is happy with the final result - that's the thing I let sit for at least a day ot two to really get it to "bake off" and lose every last bit of solvent from it.

And of course, it goes without saying - if I am involved - this can include distasterous results on a regular basis!
 
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Spent the night working out the bugs on the waterslide decal dials...it's getting better and better. This was some very rough brass blanks that I didn't super clean or polish, and there's not even a center hole drilled...just getting the process ready for the real deal.

I did a couple gold gilt dials and a few with white lettering...not sure about the white, but it's a nice option to have. Did them with and without chapter ring...I think this is more or less the 1016 and 6610, but it's super late and my brain is degrading, lol.

Also printed up some 27mm dials for the 34mm Raffles case (and gen Rolex cases), although I only had 30mm blanks, so there's a lot of space left over:






Also got some 40mm blanks (slightly too big, but can machine down) and a couple super cheap AliX cases for another long term project that's still getting the bugs worked out...

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Anyone looking for a Yuki tropical Dial?

why pay 100 from Yuki when you can pay 700 on ebay. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

 

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Anyone looking for a Yuki tropical Dial?

why pay 100 from Yuki when you can pay 700 on ebay. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

700 bucks, and he didn't even bother do change the description...he describes a Submariner dial, lol.
 
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In other news.

Raffles has spoken to his factory and they are able to make the commando hands to spec.



Production will probably start after the holidays but it will nice to have a source fot these hands complete.
Was just about ready to place another order with Raffles...now do I wait or just buy more stuff in a couple weeks? Lol
 
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Today’s project.

Radium burnt hands. ☢️☢️☢️



I dig this look often found on early subs. Here is an example on an explorer 6610

I have an okd set of raffle hands that will be perfect for this


First corrosion with a vinegar bath. Then some creativity with some paints.
 
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Was just about ready to place another order with Raffles...now do I wait or just buy more stuff in a couple weeks? Lol
Buy some now and later

I put in an order earlier this week and those parts along with my commando dial are on route and i have to put in another order this weekend. I cant keep this guy in business myself. You guys gotta pitch in. 😂😂
 

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Today’s project.

Radium burnt hands. ☢️☢️☢️



I dig this look often found on early subs. Here is an example on an explorer 6610

I have an okd set of raffle hands that will be perfect for this


First corrosion with a vinegar bath. Then some creativity with some paints.
Yes, I love the look of radium burnt dials. I've actually played around with an old junk dial and a soldering iron, but haven't perfected it yet. It always looks cool when you can see where the hands stopped as the watch sat in grandpa's dresser drawer for 30 years or so, lol.
 
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