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Swiss watch industry Crisis ? Rep super clone movements ?
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I honestly believe the biggest crisis is the move towards a digital age. While it has been said before, I can say with some sense of certainty that wrist watches will become further niche products worn by us codgers still interested in the beauty of mechanical design.
I was (a rare event) in the office last week and saw no less than 50 people wearing smart watches (aka phone extenders) of various brands. Mostly apple but a smattering of android based beasts as well.
To the best of my knowledge (not saying much here BTW
) I am only aware of Tag and Breitling making the major leap towards connected devices so far (I think Fredrick constant did one riff as well but couldn’t find it and yes, montblanc does one but ick, just ick).
At some point i wonder if one of the big players will team up with an Apple or Google to build something?
Me, I just hate running out of juice, so I will stick to mechanical.
I was (a rare event) in the office last week and saw no less than 50 people wearing smart watches (aka phone extenders) of various brands. Mostly apple but a smattering of android based beasts as well.
To the best of my knowledge (not saying much here BTW
) I am only aware of Tag and Breitling making the major leap towards connected devices so far (I think Fredrick constant did one riff as well but couldn’t find it and yes, montblanc does one but ick, just ick). At some point i wonder if one of the big players will team up with an Apple or Google to build something?
Me, I just hate running out of juice, so I will stick to mechanical.
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I believe you have it backwards. Dandong used a stronger mainspring to attain the 72 hour power reserve that Rolex brags about. Rolex was able to attain 72hrs by using less mass in the escapement ie escape wheel and pallet forks. Rep used a stronger mainspring and sealed it in the barrel. I figured the additional stress was going to cause premature failure and that’s why I had the rep parts swapped out for gen. Reps may be just fine with the stronger mainspring but that was my logic. There doesn’t seem to be many people posting about problems but absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. Only time will tell.
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Check out @trailboss99 field test and review of the CF. He is currently doing a long term review that is worth keeping an eye on.I believe you have it backwards. Dandong used a stronger mainspring to attain the 72 hour power reserve that Rolex brags about. Rolex was able to attain 72hrs by using less mass in the escapement ie escape wheel and pallet forks. Rep used a stronger mainspring and sealed it in the barrel. I figured the additional stress was going to cause premature failure and that’s why I had the rep parts swapped out for gen. Reps may be just fine with the stronger mainspring but that was my logic. There doesn’t seem to be many people posting about problems but absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. Only time will tell.
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I seen he was just beginning on a CF Daytona, is he also doing one on a dd3285 GMT? I’ll definitely keep my eye out for it. Like I said, I haven’t seen many problems posted and a few problems are to be expected. So the ootb watches are probably just fine. If problems do manifest themselves I’d expect it to be several years down the road. Time is a great leveler. Time wounds all heels.
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I know he beat the bejebus out of a CF GMT as well. Have a search for it.
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I got an Apple watch ive had for years series 4 think I have and app on it that allows me to set the face to a watch of my choosing so for a laugh I choose Polar explorer or Blusey Subs on my left hand, it does many count exercise for me and is handy for metting reminders and paying for a pint doon the battle cruiser! But I still prefer something on the other wrist that I like and is an expression of me and my likes, I buy watches for me but the Smart watches tend to be like modern cars they all look alike and blend in to the back ground, strangely in a society that has to be sooooo individual and have some sort of movement every day for something and not be ruled by "the man" they do seem to choose to support the big corps and blend in alot! With their Tesla's, Apple, and Starbucks and then listening to all those old classics re-produced on vinyl. (on a totally different topic how come records have made a come back but Cassettes and VHS havent doesnt anyone wnat the authentice dirty head crackles and lines on film for that aithentic original viewing pleasure!)I honestly believe the biggest crisis is the move towards a digital age. While it has been said before, I can say with some sense of certainty that wrist watches will become further niche products worn by us codgers still interested in the beauty of mechanical design.
I was (a rare event) in the office last week and saw no less than 50 people wearing smart watches (aka phone extenders) of various brands. Mostly apple but a smattering of android based beasts as well.
To the best of my knowledge (not saying much here BTW
At some point i wonder if one of the big players will team up with an Apple or Google to build something?
Me, I just hate running out of juice, so I will stick to mechanical.
I think the shift has already happened to the digital age, people who used to sayin spending £500 or more on a watch was stupid but think noting off blowing more on an Apple watch and phone.
I reckon Watches are now more than a time piece for knowing when lunch is, they are now the only jewelry for us blokes. and the younger generation dont see the watch or the mechanics, they see bling or a label and if you can afford it liek a burberry scarf then you must be doing allright!
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I believe you have it backwards. Dandong used a stronger mainspring to attain the 72 hour power reserve that Rolex brags about. Rolex was able to attain 72hrs by using less mass in the escapement ie escape wheel and pallet forks. Rep used a stronger mainspring and sealed it in the barrel. I figured the additional stress was going to cause premature failure and that’s why I had the rep parts swapped out for gen. Reps may be just fine with the stronger mainspring but that was my logic. There doesn’t seem to be many people posting about problems but absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. Only time will tell.
Yes agree not saying either way is wrong but mixing parts that were not originally desinged to work with other might never be a problem but it might is some of the parts are not designed to the same spec, bit like I guess putting stainless steel sump plugs in aluminium or aluminum sumps, both work but the chances of stripping the the thread on the sum are much higher than if it were made of steel in te first place. but like you said only time will tell either way Might never be an issue and to be fair even if it is swapping in some gen spec parts is not big bill, so as the super reps movements are now taking gen parts, if they really o look the part then they will live as long as a gen, albeit maybe needing a few more parts along the way, or not!
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I’ll search it up. I suppose beating the bejesus out of one for a few months answers a few questions. It’s like the old timex commercials. “It takes a beating and keeps on sweeping” instead of the “it takes a licking and keeps on ticking”.
Wait what? This is getting more and more interesting, what type of “training” do pharmaceutical companies invite to? You mean like a way to bribe the right people for their own benefit type of way. Right?
Come on, this isn't really breaking news, and Big Pharma isn't the only sector using such practices. They simply invite a doctor to a "convention" or the likes about an average healthcare problem which the doctor can write off as training (hence recouping taxes) and it turns out the convention is held in a 7-star hotel & golf club, all inclusive. They gather for the "convention" part for a couple of hours (which is mainly marketing of their product) and the remaining 3-6 days the doctors can enjoy the hotel and its services, most of the time accompanied by their wife (or "secretary"). Sometimes this is sufficient for the doctor to feel compelled to make a big order for his private practice, sometimes other "pressure" practices or more concrete bribing methods come into place.
Continuing the original analogy, the wine critic may just get one pallet of wine instead of a bottle or two he actually would need for his tasting. Through his network, the critic will sell the remaining 160 bottles to a restaurant.
Everyone is corruptible.
@TerryRobot ”bit like Triggers boom, he's had the same broom for 20years and its only had 17 new handles and 14 new brushes”
I wonder how many readers have not got a clue what you are on about!
Classic!
I wonder how many readers have not got a clue what you are on about!
Classic!
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I know but its a great saying, just maybe lost on anyone outside the UK@TerryRobot ”bit like Triggers boom, he's had the same broom for 20years and its only had 17 new handles and 14 new brushes”
I wonder how many readers have not got a clue what you are on about!
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They reward doctors with kickbacks that come in all sorts of forms. Vacations are typical but gifts are too. The size of the kickback is determined by how much product the doctor moves.
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heck yes, the fit and finish are in no way comparable, it's a less than a minute job to tell when you know what you are looking for.
I haven't done a review yet but I wore it for three months while doing stuff that would give a Rolex tech a look like a modern-day WH&S inspector in an 1800s cotton mill. It's tough, it's very tough. I may do a write-up when I get the chance, I'm a day out of hospital after an argument with my gall bladder that the bladder nearly won.
Na, it exists almost everywhere in some form, in a lot of places it's Graddad's Axe.
Doctors ........... Hmmmm I avoid them it's been years since I last went and I haven't dropped dead yet
Oh, wow, hope your feeling better now, 20 odd years ago Mel was very ill with it too, I remember sitting waiting for her to come outta the Op