Something about custommade handmade straps

[thermalboyz]

@tysoosn

 

[tysoosn]

thermalboyz insulting everyone? Not some guys think the same like me! For the strap makers its their job. For my job some people say im expensive too. Maybe I am. I respect my work and Im professional. If you want me then pay me!

They can charged whatever price they want but the buyer only buy at a sensible price. Simple math will work it out and it's your choice to buy it or not. If you can't afford it doesn't mean it is poor quality. As I said the final price charged are all factor in with time, materials and other resources in order to make the strap.
Yes they can charge. It doesnt have sanse paying 200$ strap for 200$ watch. Everyone can afford 200$ strap. Everyone have 200$. Im sure in that. But the question is are we all gonna buy that 200$ strap? 90% of the price is for the time! only 10% for the materials.. What other resources? Glue? You can buy kilos of that...

Stop talking about factory, fur, china, turkey, cheap vs expensive, and especially "10 Mins". Bring some proof to back you up and do your research before making any statement.
Why to stop? I advice some people. If they go in Greece they must visit that place. And buy leather for cheap price. They make leather fashion for 90% of the market in russia.. In fact can you give me video of making watch strap for hours? That will be funny!! I cant give you the names of the brands who pay to be made here!

Use google translate and put chinese to english. Go read on some China forums there. I cant tell you more then that. Because its not fair for the TDs here!

 

[tysoosn]

And why you use workds like **** you or something? That should hurt me? Even if you use 2 000 000$ Patek watch. You will never be gentleman with that vocabulary!

 

[thermalboyz]

thermalboyz insulting everyone? Not some guys think the same like me! For the strap makers its their job. For my job some people say im expensive too. Maybe I am. I respect my work and Im professional. If you want me then pay me!

They can charged whatever price they want but the buyer only buy at a sensible price. Simple math will work it out and it's your choice to buy it or not. If you can't afford it doesn't mean it is poor quality. As I said the final price charged are all factor in with time, materials and other resources in order to make the strap.
Yes they can charge. It doesnt have sanse paying 200$ strap for 200$ watch. Everyone can afford 200$ strap. Everyone have 200$. Im sure in that. But the question is are we all gonna buy that 200$ strap? 90% of the price is for the time! only 10% for the materials.. What other resources? Glue? You can buy kilos of that... If you don't buy then it's your choice, there are people will buy. Glue? I don't want to buy kilo of them even they are penny. It's my choice.

Stop talking about factory, fur, china, turkey, cheap vs expensive, and especially "10 Mins". Bring some proof to back you up and do your research before making any statement.
Why to stop? I advice some people. If they go in Greece they must visit that place. And buy leather for cheap price. They make leather fashion for 90% of the market in russia.. In fact can you give me video of making watch strap for hours? That will be funny!! I cant give you the names of the brands who pay to be made here! Greece? What place? Leather for cheap? Proof. To Russia? I've been to to Russia many time and they have their own farm. I can't give you video until you can give video of 10 mins strap. (I asked the question first for proof)

Use google translate and put chinese to english. Go read on some China forums there. I cant tell you more then that. Because its not fair for the TDs here! I don't need to use google as I can read Chinese. So which Chinese Forum? show some proof.

And why you use workds like **** you or something? That should hurt me? Even if you use 2 000 000$ Patek watch. You will never be gentleman with that vocabulary!

well, technically I did not use the word, I provide a link to an image from online.

 

[tysoosn]

Isnt the same? I will get out man. But if administrator tell me

 

[tysoosn]

If you don't buy then it's your choice, there are people will buy. Glue? I don't want to buy kilo of them even they are penny. It's my choice.
Yes. I dont wanna stop them!

Greece? What place? Leather for cheap? Proof. To Russia? I've been to to Russia many time and they have their own farm. I can't give you video until you can give video of 10 mins strap. (I asked the question first for proof)
Paralia Katerinis. Its village. There are beaches too. But not high class like Santorini lol. I gave you 4min video edited. If the guy was faster and the video was not edited it would be 10 min. Funny will be video hours of making watch strap.

I don't need to use google as I can read Chinese. So which Chinese Forum? show some proof.
Im not type of man who will give you this informations. This is forum. I will not give other forum links. If you wanna buy less for the same quality then search and i find it. If you dont then pay for it but dont attack me here...

 

[thermalboyz]

If you don't buy then it's your choice, there are people will buy. Glue? I don't want to buy kilo of them even they are penny. It's my choice.
Yes. I dont wanna stop them! You don't want to stop buying GLUE?

Greece? What place? Leather for cheap? Proof. To Russia? I've been to to Russia many time and they have their own farm. I can't give you video until you can give video of 10 mins strap. (I asked the question first for proof)
Paralia Katerinis. Its village. There are beaches too. But not high class like Santorini lol. I gave you 4min video edited. If the guy was faster and the video was not edited it would be 10 min. Funny will be video hours of making watch strap. 4 mins video and claimed 10 mins. I doubt you have actually seen it in person a real leather making process. (Not the video)

I don't need to use google as I can read Chinese. So which Chinese Forum? show some proof.
Im not type of man who will give you this informations. This is forum. I will not give other forum links. If you wanna buy less for the same quality then search and i find it. If you dont then pay for it but dont attack me here... I say the Chinese made good strap too but not cheap like $50, I have few connection who are leather maker and they made good strap and not the price as you claimed to be. (as for the Chinese always say the "the silly pay twice") ...

 

[tysoosn]

You get hurted because i said noone will buy used straps? Whats the problem? Leather is natural material. It apsorb all that swear. And sell it? I would better wear 1$ PU straps than that. Its like buying used girls panties. You hear for that fetish? But this is like buying used panties and wearing them... eww...

 

[beau_bands]

The catharsis of this whole thread is that Tysoosn prefers low cost straps.
Bless his heart.

 

[thermalboyz]

I won't get hurt, many will buy used strap. so what's the problem? You buy PU is your choice so why all these comments about other strap maker's and quality issue. Panties? seriously now pantie and fetish? After 7 pages and I still fail to understand what you trying to achieve here. (Apart from you prefer low cost strap)

Buy low cost strap then and wear it with health. If you can afford better quality then buy it, don't like 2nd hand then don't buy it, like $1 PU then get plenty of them, why bring all this thing up without any proof of your comments? yes, things are not the same price in different parts of world. So what? Can you do anything about $10 labor in China? NO, then shut up with all your assumption. You like Factory outlet / Aliexpress it's your choice, they have a reason why the price point is what it is.

well, mod gonna see this and I would say this going nowhere.
[MENTION=11620]trailboss99[/MENTION]

 

[Zidi]

To me, Good strap = well made straps that I enjoy wearing, feel good when I wear them, look good with my watch , and at reasonable price! 150-300 $ can be reasonable price , it s all art, craft , materials, labor -----Those cost $$$

 

[root]

[MENTION=11620]trailboss99[/MENTION] can you just use your admin rights and make a stop at this nonsense discussion?


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[trailboss99]

icad2: Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens


Its like talking to a brick wall, pointless.

 

[tysoosn]

Zidi and at reasonable price! 150-300 $ can be reasonable price , it s all art, craft , materials, labor -----Those cost $$$
You dont pay for that. You pay for the time of the Artist Lets be clear. What materials 10x2cm leather? glues? holes? hahha
root
My point is not to make you lose your job. Dont be afraid....



Im afraid to say this but i must. In all discussion. Everyone who start fight with me: Some of them are strap sellers, some used strap sellers, some bought a lot. And everyone is touched by the true I think. I think you all know the real price. And now you tell me to **** **** of from this forum or close topis or ban me IDK. The admin too. He must save his TDs too. But i dont attack them. Just let be clear. You can find the same quality for lot cheaper price if you want. Custom, handmade, italian, swiss....

 

[trailboss99]

Ok , now you start on me as well, exactly what are you implying? That I am in the pocket of the dealers?

 

[root]

Well I ask TB to close thread since it's pointless, nothing else and no, you can't close my business even if you want.
About prices, sure tha there's a difference in production costs in USA, Europe and China but that doesn't say anything about quality. I'm buying Chinese tools of supperior quality, and guess what, they costs almost in dolar as Fremch ones. Superb quality something we can't say for most of TD replicas. Chinese factories CAN produce flawless replica, but they don't want to close their future income. Recap, there are quality producti in far east (and they cost like in EU), there is also stuff of bad quality, but cheep. With other words, choose your poison


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[thermalboyz]

I would consider this a troll thread. I had a feeling ops is trying to implies the quality of viet / thai are the same as top maker. So trying to divert sales to viet / thai maker. I am sure op has connection and want to make some bucks.

 

[tysoosn]

trailboss99 no! but they are TDs here. Why do you think I want to attack you all here? Why do you think i hate you all? Im jealous? or what? Can we try to talk normal? You all start to fight with me from the first page! I dont hate you guys.. And finally we are people who love watches.

root
I didnt said I can close your business. If I do that I will kill myself because I help to people not close them... You dont know me right? and i dont know you too. But why you all not try to talk normal? just fight fight fight.

About prices, sure tha there's a difference in production costs in USA, Europe and China but that doesn't say anything about quality. I'm buying Chinese tools of supperior quality, and guess what, they costs almost in dolar as Fremch ones. Superb quality something we can't say for most of TD replicas. Chinese factories CAN produce flawless replica, but they don't want to close their future income. Recap, there are quality producti in far east (and they cost like in EU), there is also stuff of bad quality, but cheep. With other words, choose your poison


Yes!!!!! Thats 1 great reply! Chinese have great quality too!! Even if its not Made in Italy and its Made in China it can be HQ too. We are all people at the end of the day right? But my friend, I still think. If its handmade, its cheaper then Italy or Germany. Im talking about same quality. Dont start again pls with arts, 100 hours for strap....

 

[tysoosn]

thermalboyz I would consider this a troll thread. I had a feeling ops is trying to implies the quality of viet / thai are the same as top maker. So trying to divert sales to viet / thai maker. I am sure op has connection and want to make some bucks.

I dont want to implies someone or something. I dont have any connection and I will not make any bucks of it!! Thats why I dont give any links and I dont tell nothing. U asked me for links and I didnt gave u right? To other guys who send me PM - I WILL NOT GIVE YOU!!! Because its your choise. If you ask me I will suggest you to go for Chinese, not viet/thai. But even they can give you looot better price then Italians for the same quality. But its always your choise. Im in contact on fb with some italian strap makers... They want me to make some business. Not the cheap ones... But my country dont have customers for straps. They buy 1$ PU ones...

 

[ceesq]

trailboss99 no! but they are TDs here. Why do you think I want to attack you all here? Why do you think i hate you all? Im jealous? or what? Can we try to talk normal? You all start to fight with me from the first page! I dont hate you guys.. And finally we are people who love watches. root I didnt said I can close your business. If I do that I will kill myself because I help to people not close them... You dont know me right? and i dont know you too. But why you all not try to talk normal? just fight fight fight. About prices, sure tha there's a difference in production costs in USA, Europe and China but that doesn't say anything about quality. I'm buying Chinese tools of supperior quality, and guess what, they costs almost in dolar as Fremch ones. Superb quality something we can't say for most of TD replicas. Chinese factories CAN produce flawless replica, but they don't want to close their future income. Recap, there are quality producti in far east (and they cost like in EU), there is also stuff of bad quality, but cheep. With other words, choose your poison Yes!!!!! Thats 1 great reply! Chinese have great quality too!! Even if its not Made in Italy and its Made in China it can be HQ too. We are all people at the end of the day right? But my friend, I still think. If its handmade, its cheaper then Italy or Germany. Im talking about same quality. Dont start again pls with arts, 100 hours for strap....

You think Asian leather is the same quality as Italian leathers? there are loads of different quality leathers with very different prices.