Sure you can pretend a rep is gen. What you should´t do is lie and steal.
All frankens aren´t $2000.
It's a horology hobby, rep or gen doesn´t matter.
Oh, and you seem to have a thing for "trannys". Not judging.
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Rolex Reps will NEVER be identical UNLESS you use GEN parts
- Thread starter jonathanw
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Sure you can pretend a rep is gen. What you should´t do is lie and steal.
All frankens aren´t $2000.
It's a horology hobby, rep or gen doesn´t matter.
Oh, and you seem to have a thing for "trannys". Not judging.
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Whats the fun about buying a gen?
Frankens are cool because it's unique, hand picked by you, build by you... Spending hours of sourcing parts, installing them, modifying things to make it fit... It's all about the fun, you'll never be proud of your gen in the same way you'll be proud of your OWN build franken!
Frankens are cool because it's unique, hand picked by you, build by you... Spending hours of sourcing parts, installing them, modifying things to make it fit... It's all about the fun, you'll never be proud of your gen in the same way you'll be proud of your OWN build franken!
Of course it does make sense to spend $2000 on a franken. Just look at the outstanding beauties Kbh posted. You may want to have an all gen-parts Rolex or Omega except the caseset and the movement. And this may be economically very reasonable. If the movement is not important to You (for many of us 90% to 99% of the watch is about the looks and not the movement) a genuine, swiss, elaboré grade ETA may be a perfect alternative to the rolex-movement. You get independent from the brand service costs and often long waiting times. And should something happen, $2000 out-of-the-pocket fun-money are easier to replace than $6000.
For others the movement is important, so You can go the other route and put a double A/R crystal and a Tissot Powermatic 80 hours into Your rep AP Diver and have something very nice movement wise, without any other changes. Imho it´s also a nice choice.
Do some price checks on Amazon.com, Amazon.uk and Amazon.de: for the same mid-priced Omega gen and You will see it costs $4000 in Conus and over $6000 in the EU - it´s the same watch, the same sales-provider, just another country and different taxes on the item - a much faster way to burn Your $2000+.
Buying used for $2000? All good and fine - if You know whom You are buying from. If You check on Youtube to see what some ppl do to their watches and how they do it You might think twice at the very least. I´m pretty sure that once I scale down my collection, it will go into some quality Datejust, vintage Sub and probably a Panerai-Cortebert value-for-money builds and not into more EU-overpriced and overhyped gens. To each his own.
Opinions and tastes do change over time. For frankens You have the old school (members who are in it for the journey, the hunt for parts, the pleasure of seeing it come together - or those who just know exactly what they want) and a new generation with money who just want to send it off to have every conceivable and known mod done to it.
My R-rep with only rep parts next to 2 gens - and it doesn´t even look identical to anything, it just looks good ... to me
For others the movement is important, so You can go the other route and put a double A/R crystal and a Tissot Powermatic 80 hours into Your rep AP Diver and have something very nice movement wise, without any other changes. Imho it´s also a nice choice.
Do some price checks on Amazon.com, Amazon.uk and Amazon.de: for the same mid-priced Omega gen and You will see it costs $4000 in Conus and over $6000 in the EU - it´s the same watch, the same sales-provider, just another country and different taxes on the item - a much faster way to burn Your $2000+.
Buying used for $2000? All good and fine - if You know whom You are buying from. If You check on Youtube to see what some ppl do to their watches and how they do it You might think twice at the very least. I´m pretty sure that once I scale down my collection, it will go into some quality Datejust, vintage Sub and probably a Panerai-Cortebert value-for-money builds and not into more EU-overpriced and overhyped gens. To each his own.
Opinions and tastes do change over time. For frankens You have the old school (members who are in it for the journey, the hunt for parts, the pleasure of seeing it come together - or those who just know exactly what they want) and a new generation with money who just want to send it off to have every conceivable and known mod done to it.
My R-rep with only rep parts next to 2 gens - and it doesn´t even look identical to anything, it just looks good ... to me
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2000 dollars is a cheap franken won't have many gen parts other than crown and xtal and perhaps insert.my Franken will cost over 2000 pounds every thing gen excpt from mid case and movement but that will be gen Swiss with h4 mod.but it's worth it as it will be flawless.
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Exactly a franken is the king of the rep world if people want to call it a tranny they are jelous and probably can't afford or have the patience to build.also if your watch looks 99 percent identical to the gen but you save 3500 pounds you have a winner.I'm on my second ultra 116610 franken now.they don't lose value either to resell if need be.I've only been in this game/hobby 2 years but feel like a vet
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Same here bud!
There's so much more to it than just buying gen imho. You build like a close relationship to the watch you built..
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Me too, just all because of me being anal enough not to be able to accept small flaws :whistling:
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But another thing to mention even experts cannot tell gen or rep.on the rolex forum some guy posted a pic of his tudorblackbay. Obvious fake. But the mod says it looks real to him.and his looks like this fake lol.here is a pic of the offending watch
Mid sel is round.insert wrong. Dial markers wrong. Dial print flat and wrong. Cannon pinion hole is massive lol.shoul not have a hole.minute hand has white lume not creamy like the rest of dial .and the seconds hand is too short it should reach the chapter ring.so my point is you need to be a true expert like myself to spot a rep .as so called experts can't tell and say this is gen
Mid sel is round.insert wrong. Dial markers wrong. Dial print flat and wrong. Cannon pinion hole is massive lol.shoul not have a hole.minute hand has white lume not creamy like the rest of dial .and the seconds hand is too short it should reach the chapter ring.so my point is you need to be a true expert like myself to spot a rep .as so called experts can't tell and say this is gen
Um, probably bad timing but my pair of trannies arrived today... They wanted to say hi to the triplets.
Pair of nice looking trannie's there Junebug. Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. My wife's already confiscated the TT with the gold dial.
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But another thing to mention even experts cannot tell gen or rep.on the rolex forum some guy posted a pic of his tudorblackbay. Obvious fake. But the mod says it looks real to him.and his looks like this fake lol.here is a pic of the offending watch
Mid sel is round.insert wrong. Dial markers wrong. Dial print flat and wrong. Cannon pinion hole is massive lol.shoul not have a hole.minute hand has white lume not creamy like the rest of dial .and the seconds hand is too short it should reach the chapter ring.so my point is you need to be a true expert like myself to spot a rep .as so called experts can't tell and say this is gen
Lol a min ago the dude just says he took this fake to the ad today to check it was real.and to my surprise he says the ad told him it's real ha ha .what a liar
I think you owe the Chinese factories some credit man. A few hundred dollars doesn't buy much without a battery in these days sir.
I have a gen sub and then bought a rep because I wanted to wear one on a daily basis. Yes there are differences, but saying it's 30% real comparing to gen would be too harsh. The thing about reps is that you really have to wear it with confidence. It's not that we're trying to sell off reps as gens to scam people, so there's not need to mind the differences under a microscope or having the case opened. I wear my gen and reps interchangeably around other people who wears gens too. The conversation generally stays within talking about the watch itself or other watches. No one is going to be anal enough to borrow your watch just to compared with them at 5mm distance to prove that you're wearing a rep.
The problem with a lot of people new to reps is because they mind that the watches are reps, they think people are going to see through them. That doesn't happen! There's a reason why the cliched saying in rep game is "wear with confidence" because really, that's all you need to do. I've worn various reps around and displayed them, and talked about them with people. If you choose a good enough rep, no one ever looks at them with the presumption that it's a fake. The only person who keeps thinking the watch is fake is yourself!
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The mods and experts all think a noob v5 is real as well over there even in macro pics.they say that the noob v5 is 100 percent gen.so as the thread title says rolex reps will never be identical unless you use gen parts is mute.as the entire official rolex forum experts and mods think a z factory tudor bb and a noob v5 pics even at macro level with massive flaws starring them in the face are 100 percent gen.so take what u will of that.and wear your unmodded reps without worry
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This proves you do not need any gen parts on reps to fool ads and rolex experts not that u should though.I gave up trying to say they were not real they would not have it lol ,its so stupid the experts are not experts at all it lol.
Unless your rep is from canal street nobody part from myself and maybe 1 or 2 others will know your wearing a rep
Unless your rep is from canal street nobody part from myself and maybe 1 or 2 others will know your wearing a rep