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Rolex Reps will NEVER be identical UNLESS you use GEN parts

AuroraCycler

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For the three seconds that someone looks at your wrist and sees your watch, they might know what brand it is. If they are a true watch person, they might even know the model. If they ask you to take it off for inspection, they are a prick.

But don't pull up in the Honda sporting a 50k rep. Kind of like getting CZ earrings and trying to pawn them off like they are real. If they are a reasonable size/cost no one will ever question their authenticity.
 

genericvalue

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At the end of the day, if you feel that it looks good enough to fool everyone without going into a microscopic scrutiny and if it catches the feel and beauty of the real thing then surely the replica has done its job? If you are still suffering with an inferiority complex even after spending stupid amounts on the best rep you can afford then maybe its time to sell everything and get one good original, and then come rapidly to the conclusion that for the money maybe the replica wasnt such a bad deal..
 

genericvalue

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@xlo_oxlo (I think!!) "Owning a franken is like dating a tranny... mostly girly parts but in your heart of hearts you know you are just hooking up with a dude."

- hilarious but true geezer! There'll ALWAYS be that feeling in the back of your mind that it's just not right!!!!!!!
 

KBH

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Owning a franken is like dating a tranny... mostly girly parts but in your heart of hearts you know you are just hooking up with a dude.

My 3 trannies. And I like then just fine, thank you very much!





When you find a rep that look as nice, please let me know.
 

Keylog74

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Two things come to mind immediately. First why would you expect a rep that costs 10% of a gen to be the same quality? And second, and more important is thinking that gen owners can tell the difference. Most of them are absolutely clueless as to the minuscule differences that the analista's here spend days agonizing over.

I gave my nephew a mediocre (by today's standards) Cartel "Classic" ETA Sub 4 years ago and his co-workers who own gens are convinced it's a gen. They don't know squat.

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i think this :: ''I wouldn't know if i didn't HAVE A MICROSCOPE OR LOUPE but I assure you that looking at it under a loupe its pretty obvious its not gen.''
it totally wrong to start with ! reps are to enjoy for your own pleasure . the only scenario i can think you need a rep to pass loupe ecc you eather trying to scam someone or you trying to fool and AD , both cases are wrong ! dont get me wrong to have a watch that looks same under 20x is great but not for the sake of fulling people or scamming just to make you feel good with yourself , ( for me i go : yay i bought it for 500 not for 5000 this what makes me happy with reps ) and if a rep side by side with gen it passes its a good rep , no matter how anal you can be !
 

KBH

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i think this :: ''I wouldn't know if i didn't HAVE A MICROSCOPE OR LOUPE but I assure you that looking at it under a loupe its pretty obvious its not gen.''
it totally wrong to start with ! reps are to enjoy for your own pleasure . the only scenario i can think you need a rep to pass loupe ecc you eather trying to scam someone or you trying to fool and AD , both cases are wrong ! dont get me wrong to have a watch that looks same under 20x is great but not for the sake of fulling people or scamming just to make you feel good with yourself , ( for me i go : yay i bought it for 500 not for 5000 this what makes me happy with reps ) and if a rep side by side with gen it passes its a good rep , no matter how anal you can be !

First of all I gotta say that post is total horse shit. You couldn't tell the difference with a loupe cause other than the 2 two tone bracelets, every part is gen. And on the silver one even the bracelet is gen.
the only scenario i can think you need a rep to pass loupe ecc you eather trying to scam someone or you trying to fool and AD , both cases are wrong !

And since you seem to be implying that's my motive for building them, you can kiss my ass.
 

Smoke

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First of all I gotta say that post is total horse shit. You couldn't tell the difference with a loupe cause other than the 2 two tone bracelets, every part is gen. And on the silver one even the bracelet is gen.


And since you seem to be implying that's my motive for building them, you can kiss my ass.

U tell em bro.I love and only wear super frankens and gens. No OTB rep is good enough for my tastes anymore ,apart from tcs and maybe the sd4000 and even that I would prefer the gen bezel and insert and dial to be installed.I just can't look at the OTB rolex on my wrist without cringing at all the ugly flaws.
 

beefjerky456

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Essentially any movement not a gen 3135 as far as I know. Any crown movements to move the hands go in the opposite direction.

And a rolex that doesn't have a 3135 movement? The 3035 crown hand rotation is the same as the ETA 2824/36... Just don't ask me about the date wheel change direction :rofl:
 

Keylog74

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And since you seem to be implying that's my motive for building them, you can kiss my ass.

I think you misunderstood my post or maybe without intention i did misunderstood you , but looking at your attitude and you vulgar vocabulary im not surprised this happen and i dont think i have time to argue with you ... too bad you can build your frankes but not some class and manners this two usually are the biggest tell to everything ! enjoy your night pleasure sharing with your some thoughts !
 

DreadPirateRobert

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You mean like this::giggle:

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Something about this watch looks a little goofy.
 

genericvalue

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settle down gentlemen...I sense a little bit of testosterone.
Whilst I am a newbie to this whole scene, I have other hobbies that quickly went from a respectable past time to crazy expensive in the pursuit of the unattainable perfection.
In a similar way, I think everyone starts off with a cheap watch and then aspires to the next level up and so it goes on.
And then there are those that seek to "capture" perfection - they get so obsessed with trying to "make" a facsimile of that which eludes them: the real thing, to the point where all reason and common sense goes out the window.
All these folk want, is to be able to create something that is totally indistinguishable from the real thing, yet is born in humble surroundings far from the hallowed Patek/Rolex workshops. To these people, if they have managed to emulate something that is IDENTICAL to the real thing, then they have succeeded. It doesn't matter what it has cost in terms of money, or time, or other quantifiable material things - the feeling they have succeeded in their goal is what they seek.
I think it's just part of man's restlessness and creative inquisitive energy - never content always looking for the next challenge. This is what sets us apart from beasts - we aspire to do things, not because we have to in order to survive but because we like to push boundaries.
Just my two pence worth:greedy:
 

jonathanw

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@genericvalue: +1

Perfectly said gentleman.
@KeyLog74:
I don't think Mr KBH pretends to scam a potential buyer or an AD, besides, how could you possibly scam an AD? you would need to have everything gen installed, even the movement.

@KBH: AWESOME WATCHES, just a beauty, my dad owned one of those back in the day. and of course its pretty obvious its frankened the %&@ out of it with gen parts, thats what i pretended to say in the first place, theres no way to emulate the real thing to the level of 100$ perfection unless you use a some gen parts, and that level of perfection is attainable, but it will cost you, and if you want 100% perfection you will end up paying 100 or 120% of the FULL price for a GEn at an AD. it all depends on how anal you are about details, but a OTB replica fulfils its function, yes, it gives you pleasure but when you start being anal about details then you go up into a niche of customers that the "boutique" reppers like BK and TC attend to, and then you go up another step up and start frankenizing the Rep...

Its like the italian word "Copia Conforme" meaning certified copy. Its like an oxymoron, a copy (rep) cannot be by its origin a genuine, unless you take progressively all that is left of rep parts and turn it into a gen, part by part.

Now, can someone explain please what is all these "tells" of not using a genuine rolex 3135 or a Yuki 3135 movement vs an Swiss ETA? what is it about the hands movement, the crown turning, the date changing at 6 instead of 12? I have read about this on the guides on google on "how to spot a fake rolex" they say the date changes the day at 6 instead of 12 or something like that. I hope someone can elaborate a bit on this.
 

KBH

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Jonathon: The Rolex movement, when you set the hands they go the opposite direction than an ETA when you turn the crown. Also, on the newer movements the date wheel goes the other direction also.

And to dipshit: I don't need any advice from you. Remember, you came into our house, a place where hobbyist enjoy both reps and gen watches, and many of those hobbyists who may also enjoy building their own special pieces and you tell us that you know everything about everything and you can tell any watch that's a cheap fake by looking at it. Then you put the icing on the cake and say that anyone who builds a franken is obviously a scammer and a thief! Well as far as I'm concerned you can piss off and go play in the gen forums with the other obnoxious assholes over there. You obviously don't belong here.
 

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Um, probably bad timing but my pair of trannies arrived today... They wanted to say hi to the triplets.

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junbug5150

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My tranny reference is spot on: as a man, you either date men or date women, no harm in either, but don't bring chix with dix and pretend you are the pimpest of the pimps.

LMAO! OK, bro. We get it. You're very cool, alright. Stop being so angry at life.
 

Deripsni

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That's one of the reasons I am holding off buying a rep. I drive a honda.
 

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My family have a business selling jeweler's materials, stones, precious metals, melting pots, etc. and i Just can´t believe how many "experts" came up with: "bargains, Oh look the rolex i just got for $2000" and this it's because of 2 things mainly, one, regular people see reps as mediocre products and feels disgusted "take it away, i don't want to know nothing about it" and second and IMO in my very personal opinions some reps are really reaching the state of the art, seriously a few reps that i will not mention are easily passed as gens for regular jewelers (i'll dare to say 80% of them), so what people is doing now is to take the watch to the gen's house to verify directly the movement number.
Finally a very good advice that i saw when i came to rwi was "if you want the ******* real deal" go for a gen, as simple as that.