Rolex GMT 126711 Root Beer from GMF

[vince_hiro]

from Trusty oic and video the bezel on the 24hr, the color of the brown ends at the 1, instead of touch the 8. so far only the GMF bezel is correct i guess. while GMF is busy in making the batman, coke, pepsi and yet they skip the root beer

 

[Guest]

But the date font on the GMF is terrible no? (Not to mention the ichs)

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[vince_hiro]

maybe GMF is waiting to clear off the old batch, before making a new batch with CHS.

 

[Stevenf]

from Trusty oic and video the bezel on the 24hr, the color of the brown ends at the 1, instead of touch the 8. so far only the GMF bezel is correct i guess. while GMF is busy in making the batman, coke, pepsi and yet they skip the root beer

The bezel on the previous BP batch seems to have the brown touching the 8. Did BP somehow downgrade the bezel in this new batch?


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[vince_hiro]

Looking forward to fellow members that have pull the trigger to do some reviews and photo for us.

 

[kobexu]

Does anyone know about the weight vs a gen?

The BP version weighs 127g with two links taken out. I'm not sure how heavy the gen is but I would bet it's a lot more than 127g. So don't take it off and hand it to someone.

 

[Rolly123]

The BP version weighs 127g with two links taken out. I'm not sure how heavy the gen is but I would bet it's a lot more than 127g. So don't take it off and hand it to someone.

152g with all links apparently according to this:
https://www.est1905.com/rolex-gmt-master/rolex-gmt-master-ii-original-vs-fake/

I imagine the rep is pretty close then given the 2 links removed

 

[kobexu]

152g with all links apparently according to this:
https://www.est1905.com/rolex-gmt-master/rolex-gmt-master-ii-original-vs-fake/

I imagine the rep is pretty close then given the 2 links removed

I don't think 2 links weigh 25g. But then again, any gold reps are going to weigh less than gen.

 

[robvs]

BP a2836 from Steve (theonewatches) 126711CHNR

Weight: 145grams with all links (I weighed it)

The sides of the center links: yes they are plated, however, the plating seems more like runoff from plating the face of the links rather than an intentional full coverage. You can absolutely find steel coloring if you’re searching for it. However, it’s NOT something anyone sees even under scrutiny. When removing a link, the removed link looks completely empty of plating on its sides. This is even less noticeable. So, a selling point of this watch was that those sides are plated. I think you can erase that from the pro column.

For me, in side by side pics, I preferred the rose gold color on the BP and BOY does it look sweet.

First I’m going to post some pics of it in various lighting.

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[robvs]

Here’s the plating pics that I referenced in the above post. I think it’s insane to focus on this, but we all liked the idea of this spot being plated...

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[robvs]

One more thing: I’m finding it hard to capture the exact color of the rose gold in photos. After snapping a bunch in different light, this photo seems to capture the color best. Just providing this as a point of reference. Can’t seem to capture the whole watch in all of its accurate glory:

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[Rolly123]

BP a2836 from Steve (theonewatches) 126711CHNR

Weight: 145grams with all links (I weighed it)

The sides of the center links: yes they are plated, however, the plating seems more like runoff from plating the face of the links rather than an intentional full coverage. You can absolutely find steel coloring if you’re searching for it. However, it’s NOT something anyone sees even under scrutiny. When removing a link, the removed link looks completely empty of plating on its sides. This is even less noticeable. So, a selling point of this watch was that those sides are plated. I think you can erase that from the pro column.

For me, in side by side pics, I preferred the rose gold color on the BP and BOY does it look sweet.

First I’m going to post some pics of it in various lighting.

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Massive thanks for the weight and pics! Really appreciate it.

 

[robvs]

from Trusty oic and video the bezel on the 24hr, the color of the brown ends at the 1, instead of touch the 8. so far only the GMF bezel is correct i guess. while GMF is busy in making the batman, coke, pepsi and yet they skip the root beer

I’ve just posted pics of the BP model. I don’t see the flaw you speak of. Is that correct?


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[Guest]

I think he might be speaking about the CHS version from BP? Yours is the ICHS correct? (I might be confused myself!)

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[robvs]

I think he might be speaking about the CHS version from BP? Yours is the ICHS correct? (I might be confused myself!)

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Yes it is. The bezel would be different?


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[vince_hiro]

robvs yes, I was refering to the BP CHS.
http://www.trustytime.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=20116

 

[ztealth]

the brown is not even close. I have seen it in real life. It is more like a ochre colour. This rep is way too red.

 

[KJ2020]

It's more likely that BP has gotten a new batch of inserts with the 18 transition point moved a little, than it being a movement specific characteristic.

BP A3186 Insert

 

[robvs]

the brown is not even close. I have seen it in real life. It is more like a ochre colour. This rep is way too red.

I disagree with this assessment. I have also seen it in person.
I believe that "ochre" can be found in the vintage offering, but don't see that color at all in the gmt master ii Root Beer. If you're simply saying that the brown should be lighter in color, you can see that the appearance of this watch is different in every photo. The light seriously plays with the colors of both the metals and the bezel. If you google image search this watch you'll see tons of (what appears to be based on lighting) varieties. If you look at my three pics you'll see three different colors, too. This happens with both the gen and the rep. However, I would be interested in you presenting a photo of the gen that you think holds true to the correct color. I'd bet I could come close to matching it with my rep if I play with the indoor/outdoor/led/incandescent/halogen lighting in a new pic. Could be a good experiment that benefits the group.

It is probably true that this watch will never play side-by-side with the gen, I think the sticking point is that you simply can't match rose golds perfectly. There's more of a flaw there than anywhere else. But I think it's close enough for what it is. In reality, the plating will rub off and the watch will become a mess long before I'm in the same room with the gen.

 

[ztealth]

I disagree with this assessment. I have also seen it in person.
I believe that "ochre" can be found in the vintage offering, but don't see that color at all in the gmt master ii Root Beer. If you're simply saying that the brown should be lighter in color, you can see that the appearance of this watch is different in every photo. The light seriously plays with the colors of both the metals and the bezel. If you google image search this watch you'll see tons of (what appears to be based on lighting) varieties. If you look at my three pics you'll see three different colors, too. This happens with both the gen and the rep. However, I would be interested in you presenting a photo of the gen that you think holds true to the correct color. I'd bet I could come close to matching it with my rep if I play with the indoor/outdoor/led/incandescent/halogen lighting in a new pic. Could be a good experiment that benefits the group.

It is probably true that this watch will never play side-by-side with the gen, I think the sticking point is that you simply can't match rose golds perfectly. There's more of a flaw there than anywhere else. But I think it's close enough for what it is. In reality, the plating will rub off and the watch will become a mess long before I'm in the same room with the gen.

How close would do you think the brown bezel is to that of the gen? how many percent?
I don't think it's even close. I am not talking about whether it's too dark. The tone is completely wrong. On a colour scale, the gen is more yellow but the rep is way too red.
The rep factories can't even the ceramic pepsi dial right, so I think there is zero chance they can get this root beer one right on the first try.
Can your rep match with this gen in the picture? This is the colour I see in real life.
https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-b...verose-Gold-Root-Beer-Brown-126715CHNR-1.jpeg