RM 11-03 Mclaren ABD/ZF a story to follow ...

[asuwere]

Again, like I said to Aurasash, I’m not a mod, but you’ve gone too far here mate!

This conversation has gone way beyond productive debate and entered into slagging match territory. This thread will get closed if this carries on, I think the Frenchman made himself pretty clear earlier on about this!!!!!!

DC

Fine by me. Aurasash is the one who flipped when I initially asked if he could make some further improvements. I did say I liked the surface and did say I would consider buying. But he's so hypersensitive and lost his shit.

 

[Aurasash]

lol. Well, technically a grain of rice is smaller than a pea. Aurasash can make me look like a fool. All he's got to do is post a photo of the underside of a bezel. Should take 60 seconds to put an end to this.

Another sly attempt to give reason to rubbish. Why? Simply because ALL FACTORIES including us modders only care how the surface of the bezel looks like and not how the underside looks like! DUH. How much of the underside of the bezel show that it’s soooo important? LMFAO. Don’t try to be smart aleck here. Just the same as a bottom caseback, we care more about the carbon layering that’s seen not the underside so they definitely look different not because that inferior carbon is used. Your attempts will constantly fail because I speak only the truth to your sly attempts.


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[Aurasash]

Fine by me. Aurasash is the one who flipped when I initially asked if he could make some further improvements. I did say I liked the surface and did say I would consider buying. But he's so hypersensitive and lost his shit.

I did not lose it. U didn’t merely “asked” if improvements could be made so don’t continue the pretence.


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[asuwere]

Ah, so all you're asking is for the right to a full custom-made service, tailored to your exact specification. Well, what's unreasonable about that?

icard:

He does the labor. I pay for the product. What's the problem?

 

[asuwere]

I did not lose it. U didn’t merely “asked” if improvements could be made so don’t continue the pretence.


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What pretense? I'm trying to give you money for something I want.

 

[Aurasash]

What pretense? I'm trying to give you money for something I want.

Oh ok. Here’s the store:


https://www.richardmille.com

Or you can choose this

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[asuwere]

Can you see it now?

I care about the underside because I can still see the underside.

 

[asuwere]

Oh ok. Here’s the store:


https://www.richardmille.com

Or you can choose this

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I'm afraid the value of this is in a bubble now. Prices will come down. I think a high quality rep is the better choice for RM.

 

[FREEWIFI]

I'm afraid the value of this is in a bubble now. Prices will come down. I think a high quality rep is the better choice for RM.

For an entry level of 95000€ I believe they deserve a try

????

 

[Aurasash]

I'm afraid the value of this is in a bubble now. Prices will come down. I think a high quality rep is the better choice for RM.

Why don’t u check out the prices here in China don’t be a frog in the abyss lol


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[asuwere]

For an entry level of 95000€ I believe they deserve a try

????

Maybe. But at the same time there are very nice skeletonized RDs for half that.

 

[asuwere]

Why don’t u check out the prices here in China don’t be a frog in the abyss lol


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Can't now. But hopefully some time this year. Need to get this economy rolling again!

 

[_DC_]

I'm afraid the value of this is in a bubble now. Prices will come down. I think a high quality rep is the better choice for RM.

Just seriously stop now mate, really trying to give you some advice here, it’s gone way beyond the original argument (which by the way I can see what you were saying I see the change in pattern) and now you’re just saying silly things to save face but it’s not getting anyone anywhere!

Genuine advice, take it or leave it!

DC

 

[asuwere]

Just seriously stop now mate, really trying to give you some advice here, it’s gone way beyond the original argument (which by the way I can see what you were saying I see the change in pattern) and now you’re just saying silly things to save face but it’s not getting anyone anywhere!

Genuine advice, take it or leave it!

DC

Sure is easy to misunderstand on the internet because I've got no idea where you're coming from on the face saving thing. You think RM is still going to be hot in 20 years like a PP, or fade away as just another fad? Seriously, these prices aren't going to last. If you've been watching the industry for any length of time the writing should be on the wall.

 

[Kastro26]

Just to pull it back to topic for a while, its already been stated that bezel is same carbon, and mid case is a diff carbon as its milled from a pre formed block. Also, looks like the layer being visible is not caused by layering of diff quality carbon. End of story.

Now if anyone can provide another how to episode to form a bezel without that kind of layering being visible like how RM does, please do share. Kthxbye.


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[_DC_]

Just to pull it back to topic for a while, its already been stated that bezel is same carbon, and mid case is a diff carbon as its milled from a pre formed block. Also, looks like the layer being visible is not caused by layering of diff quality carbon. End of story.

Now if anyone can provide another how to episode to form a bezel without that kind of layering being visible like how RM does, please do share. Kthxbye.


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Haha, to be fair we haven’t been on topic for quite a few pages now, this thread was meant to be about the RM011 :spit:

DC

 

[_DC_]

Sure is easy to misunderstand on the internet because I've got no idea where you're coming from on the face saving thing. You think RM is still going to be hot in 20 years like a PP, or fade away as just another fad? Seriously, these prices aren't going to last. If you've been watching the industry for any length of time the writing should be on the wall.

Don’t start with me mate, lol. I’m not disagreeing with your point about gen prices, I know nothing about that. My point is your argument went from carbon patterns to random comments about gen price bubbles, which has nothing to do with the discussion being had and kinda suggests your argument has hit a brick wall. Very few people will believe that you’re after an ABD rep while you wait for the gen price bubble to burst, lol!

DC

 

[asuwere]

Just to pull it back to topic for a while, its already been stated that bezel is same carbon, and mid case is a diff carbon as its milled from a pre formed block. Also, looks like the layer being visible is not caused by layering of diff quality carbon. End of story.

Now if anyone can provide another how to episode to form a bezel without that kind of layering being visible like how RM does, please do share. Kthxbye.


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Go back and read my "how-to". There are two additional things to do. One is when you are stacking the carbon sheets into your curved mold, is that you want to rotate the sheets at 45 degree angles to each other. That'll give the nice marbling effect on the top. Two, since those layers are so thin, you won't see the zebra stripes on the more pronounced areas of curvature (as you approach the strap). To achieve that zebra effect, you can stack the layers in groups instead of one by one. That way they appear a bit thicker which makes the layers visible to the eye.

Recap with instructions:

1. Roll out NTPT sheet and cut (approximately 6cm)
2. Cut 20 more pieces the same length (estimate here, this will take some experimentation for the right number)
3. Drop into a curved steel mold with all sheets aligned.
4. Cut 19 more pieces and align these as a group
5. Rotate the group 45 degrees and drop into the mold
6. Repeat the process making each layer thinner and thinner
7. Take your mold, apply compression from the top.
8. Drop into an autoclave and bake according to the recommended specs
9. Remove cured block and mill.

How is ABDs process potentially different? You can buy sheets of carbon in all kinds of forms. Some are cheaper than others. As long as they are pre-impregnated with binder, you can mix them up all the same. Just look at the mix of carbon and orange quartz for an example of using blends in your bezel.

 

[asuwere]

School's out boys and girls. Back to work. Been fun playing with you all.

 

[asuwere]

Don’t start with me mate, lol. I’m not disagreeing with your point about gen prices, I know nothing about that. My point is your argument went from carbon patterns to random comments about gen price bubbles, which has nothing to do with the discussion being had and kinda suggests your argument has hit a brick wall. Very few people will believe that you’re after an ABD rep while you wait for the gen price bubble to burst, lol!

DC

Shit man. Ok, last one and I'm out. Would you pay $5000 for a 1:1 RM rep? Cloned movement and nice finishing? I certainly would instead of buying gen. No way I'd pay $5000 for a 1:1 Nautilus though. But I would pay $25K for a gen PP.