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RF Submariner "Starbucks" Ref. Nr. 126610LV Review / Comparision
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No. You are wrong and dont get the point. No one makes the "best" rolies.
Deep sea? 5digits?
Read some newbie stickys...
I'm sure I get the point and I'm free to write my opinion. I'm not speaking for you, and for me according to the reviews and my own reps if you want to have a nice DJ, Sub or GMT from Rlx I would pick something from CF. For me there's nothin' better ar the moment (well yes a gen)
But if you think my opinion is wrong, it's fine for me. I respect your opinion and I also like to be respected.
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But if you think my opinion is wrong, it's fine for me. I respect your opinion and I also like to be respected.
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There is not one manufacturer who makes the best Rolex watches, never has been. If that had ever been the case, all the other factories making Rolex replicas would have closed down.
Hey gents,
Idea where I can order the missing part. I love wearing this watch and I’m gutted it’s fallen out
thanks
Happened to me 3 times now, but I’ve always been able to find mine with a 375nm UV Flashlight, makes it glow like hell even on carpets.
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Cheers for taking the time to compare these two pieces! I learned a lot! Looking forward for the CF comparison before I dip my foot on the water. Well done!
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I wont make one because already flipped that bitch of a watch (CLEAN). The gasket eing under the bezel was busted.
May I ask where you got this picture from for proofing GEN?
Well all i can say RF is first 12XXXX i see with such a crystal..
Well all i can say RF is first 12XXXX i see with such a crystal..
Hey gents,
Idea where I can order the missing part. I love wearing this watch and I’m gutted it’s fallen out
thanks
thanks a lot
My comments on the RF Subs:
PROS
1. Bracelet seems heavier build and tighter tolerances than VSF but not as good as CF
2. Crystal and Bezel fit, and the bezel ring is 3-piece friction fit like Gen and seems better shape than CF Bezel ring
3. Case shape closer to Gen/VSF
4. Movement fitting inside the case aligns the stem well it pops out like vsf/gen and very smooth to wind and screw/unscrew. Unlike ZF/CF where i had to adjust the clamping and use lapping compound to re-polish the crown/tube threads to be smooth again. I lapped the RF nonetheless.
CONS
1. Sloppy dial print
2. Case seems not GEN spec as far as the Crystal retainer ring, Crystal Fit, Bezel Ring fit. I had to lathe the retaining ring down to make the bezel removable by wedging or spudging it.
3. Filthy environment or watchmakers are probably not properly trained.
4. Scratched hands, smudges on dial, hair and fiber on movement.
5. Loads of finger prints on movement (CSI Miami would have a field day).
6. Heavy oil on the Yoke, ratchet wheel, Sliding pinion just oil oil oil everywhere the Yanks will probably start to invade the watch.
7. Very thick crystal and hytrel lip which took the overall thickness to 13.5mm when Gen is only 12.3mm. (Note it does not fit the Gen spec Crystal for the model)
8. Very thick bezel (nylon) gasket to the point that it will pull out the crystal and ring if you wedge it, that or the gasket breaks. It won’t fit a CF/ZF/Gen bezel assy. They should use the JulesBorel or similar soft and somewhat rubbery gaskets that retains shape even when kinked.
Over all a good rep for the price and like any other, it has its flaws but I will never buy one again.
PROS
1. Bracelet seems heavier build and tighter tolerances than VSF but not as good as CF
2. Crystal and Bezel fit, and the bezel ring is 3-piece friction fit like Gen and seems better shape than CF Bezel ring
3. Case shape closer to Gen/VSF
4. Movement fitting inside the case aligns the stem well it pops out like vsf/gen and very smooth to wind and screw/unscrew. Unlike ZF/CF where i had to adjust the clamping and use lapping compound to re-polish the crown/tube threads to be smooth again. I lapped the RF nonetheless.
CONS
1. Sloppy dial print
2. Case seems not GEN spec as far as the Crystal retainer ring, Crystal Fit, Bezel Ring fit. I had to lathe the retaining ring down to make the bezel removable by wedging or spudging it.
3. Filthy environment or watchmakers are probably not properly trained.
4. Scratched hands, smudges on dial, hair and fiber on movement.
5. Loads of finger prints on movement (CSI Miami would have a field day).
6. Heavy oil on the Yoke, ratchet wheel, Sliding pinion just oil oil oil everywhere the Yanks will probably start to invade the watch.
7. Very thick crystal and hytrel lip which took the overall thickness to 13.5mm when Gen is only 12.3mm. (Note it does not fit the Gen spec Crystal for the model)
8. Very thick bezel (nylon) gasket to the point that it will pull out the crystal and ring if you wedge it, that or the gasket breaks. It won’t fit a CF/ZF/Gen bezel assy. They should use the JulesBorel or similar soft and somewhat rubbery gaskets that retains shape even when kinked.
Over all a good rep for the price and like any other, it has its flaws but I will never buy one again.
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Post a pic of your rf. The ones I've seen look pretty good. Dial isn't bad either. Maybe bad batch?
Here side by side with VSF showing tighter SEL tolerance and better brush finish over VSF
Bezel and xtal looks good to me here
Here you’ll see damaged screws, oil and smudges everywhere indicative of using bare hands at assembly and the lack of proper tools
Looks okay to the naked eye and the gold texts now readable after a few dabs of Rodico and replacing damaged screws but only put back together to be serviced for another day as I ran out of epilame and cleaning chems.
I found the dial was not properly fitted when the hands were installed so I pressed it hence the hands look like they sit a bit high but the seconds hand was already a bit bent at the post and sweeps slightly diagonally.
All 3 hands and dial had to be replaced and the TD was kind enough to send me a replacement set for free.
You don’t see these types of issues with ZZF/CF m, EWF or VSF but I’ve seen smudged/scratched hands and slanted winding stem and roughly twisting crowns with ZF Subs due to over tightened case mounting screws.
Let me know if I missed anything.
Although I haven't had the RF with me for a long time, a few words about it:
The crystal looks a lot better on your watch than mine. Mine was also from the first batch, so it may well be that they have improved - good for you
The work is built in like hell. I never opened mine. What I can say is that Clean / ZZF delivered my 126610LV without / with the wrong hytral ring, which made turning the bezel impossible. A friend found pieces of paper, pieces of plastic and a hair next to the (also) botched screws in a GMT.
But that was a while ago and the feedback was passed on via the TD. Had I had the crystal like yours and it was still not possible to get a VSF, I would have kept the RF and it would have shared 2nd place with JVS for the 126610 Submariners in my opinion, right after VSF.
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