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[REVIEW] Hublot Classic Fusion 45 mm Comparison GEN/2892(v3)/2824(v2)/DG2813("lite")

Pyer

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1) Introduction


Hello RWI . It's my first review so please be indulgent :) ( Sorry for the spellings Mistakes / sentences , I'm only 21yo and my mother language is French , this is why my knowledge in english is pretty low . You can PM me to point me the mistakes so I can correct them !)
What I'll try to do is to give you a review and a appreciation of different version of this stunning watch. I hope you will have a nice read .


2) The Gen and its specs

In 2004 almost nobody had heard of Hublot. Suddenly a short time later we see the birth of a phenomenon. Literally the 'big bang' of the Big Bang. Now, about 5 years later after the product launched, you couldn't count how many Big Bang models there have on the fingers of all the people at a crowded party. What each new watch had in common was a certain pure sense of connection to each other. They each had the same distinct DNA, and the brand forced the core design in the realm of being a classic.


At the 2010 Baselworld show, Hublot unveils the Hublot Classic Fusion. A classic looking watch based upon the Big Bang design that itself is a modern looking watch. The only way that was possible, was by making the Hublot Big Bang itself a classic. Again, the irony is that the Big Bang watch itself is modern and aggressive. Anything but a classic. So Hublot was able to make a classic from a non-classic.


Classic Fusion works. Hublot takes the core Big Bang look and simplifies it. Think of it as a stripped down Big Bang King - the non-chronograph diver version of the Big Bang. The Classic Fusion has a much thinner profile and simplified dial. What you have is the classic porthole design of the case, and the strong hands and hour markers that made the Big Bang so famous. The cases come in either steel or red gold, and the bezel is in ceramic with a brushed tip and polished sides on the carbon fiber dial version, while the matte dial versions have matching gold or steel bezels. Rubber straps with thin vertical lines remind us of the first Big Bang watches that came out just a few years ago - but seems ages old given the plethora of Big Bang models to precede it


Source :ablogtoread
Specifications :

Case Diameter: 45 mm (also in 42 mm, 38 mm)
Case Material: Ceramic , Zirconium , Gold ... Bling ... ( A lot of variations and Specials Editions )
Bracelet: Rubber / Gummy Croc ...
Case Shape: Round
Dial Color: Carbon Fiber / Plain Dial
Water Resistant: 70
Winding: Self-winding
Movement : Sellita SW-300 (Clone ETA 2892) + Module For the Date Wheel
Functions : Hours , Minutes , Seconds , Date @3
Price(s) : Too Much , not my budget @ all

Here is Some of the variations you can find :

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3) Why did I chose this model ?


The look of course ! There is a nice contrast between the brushed and polished parts. She is elegant , Sporty and dressy in the same time !

As most people here , I don't have the money to buy the Gen but as i have a Student budget , I'm maybe in the poorest members part of RWI :)biglaugh:) . Just to say that my goal was to find a simple Replica , close Enough to the gen counterpart , pretty reliable (No A7750 issues or service needed when you get the watch like Big Bang's) .
So after Searching , comparing , emailing ... I pull the trigger on a mint classic fusion with 2824 mov in the member sale and i also bought somes watches from Michelle so i took a Classic Fusion in ss /dlc /rubber DG2813 mov (Silix-Prime , Thanks for the Outstanding service btw)


The Spec For the Hublot Classic fusion DLC/RG from Tony @asian7750.com (The one I bought from a member here)

Made with a Genuine Watch ..Fully Dissected
MOVEMENT: Nickle Plated Asian 2824 Autromatic Movement , 25J, 28800bph, Nickle Plated, Insiginia Engraved Rotor As per the Genuine
CASE DIAMETER: 45mm
THICKNESS: 11.5mm
DIAL COLOR: Black Carbon Fibre Dial, Steel Stick Markers
CASE MATERIAL: Thick PVD Black Coated Polished /Brushed SS 1 : 1, Solid Stainless Steel 316L, thick PVD Black Coating, Thick 18K Rose Gold Plating on Bezel.. 5 mils
BRACELET: Rubber (Antidust Quality) Rubber Strap With Insignia Clasp
FRONT GLASS: Sapphire Crystal with Double AR ( But i can't See it)
BACK GLASS: Display Caseback , Detail Serial engraving on case interior
BEZEL: Thick 18K rose Gold Plated Brushed Steel Bezel
HACK MOVEMENT: Yes
CLASP TYPE: Deployant Folding Clasp
DATE INDICATOR: At 3:00 position
Source : Here
Price : 238usd
The Spec for the 21j Version :

MOVEMENT: DG2813 ( aka common 21j) 21J (Of course ...) 21600bph Insiginia Engraved Rotor .
CASE DIAMETER: 45mm
DIAL COLOR: Black Carbon Fibre Dial, Steel Stick Markers
CASE MATERIAL: Stainless Steel 316L, PVD Bezel.
BRACELET: Rubber Rubber Strap With Insignia Clasp
FRONT GLASS: Sapphire Crystal with Double AR ( I can See it here !)
BACK GLASS: Display Caseback ,
HACK MOVEMENT: Yes
CLASP TYPE: Deployant Folding Clasp
DATE INDICATOR: At 3:00 position
I will concentrate my review on these models (Except the Gen every TD here can find them , even if there is small variation between the same model) :

The Gen With Swiss Sellita SW-300 movt
The "V2" With A2824 movt
The "V3" With A2892 movt
The "lite" With DG2813 movt (aka Asian 21J)


4) The Face , Dial , Bezel ...


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As you can see every dials are nicely repped .
The tells ar the same for every dial :

-The Date position and datewheel are incorrect ( Hublot took the decision to use a specific date module to get a larger date wheel. Look at the date window on the gen : it is close to the bezel, what would have not be possible without the module)

-The Date window :( expect the solid dial of the 2892 ) there is no "second layer" or " inside borders" there is just a direct cut

- Marker @3 wrong size

-Swiss Made inscription is a bit misplaced and maybe to thick on some models , but not really noticeable without side by side comparison


(AR coating : I don' know much about the Gen AR so i will not talk about the rep one )

5) The Caseback and movement


First a look at different version of the gen caseback (The movement is a SW-300 clone of eta 2892 with a module for the date )

Keep in mind that there is a lot of versions and variation of the gen , so the caseback engraving are different , even the "strap systems" are different .

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NOW , The "lite" Version :

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Not the same movement at all , but the engraving "HUBLOT GENEVE " On the rotor is clean and very well made ( better than the 2824 ) but the black part above the engraving is a sticker and it's a bit to shiny . I don't like the blues screws and the pink gear. (Rolex Style) (Does someone know if a direct swap with the miyota 8215 is possible, keeping the rotor of the dg2813 ?)

The circumflex accent on vendôme is wrong ( it's a complete triangle)

IMO he H of hublot in the right bottom is fantasy .

The 2824 ("v2")

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Again wrong movement (But sweeps @28800 like gen) , bad engraving on the rotor but the black part of the rotor is nice and look like metal and not sticker , movement feel less cheap ^^
Execpt the movement the biggest tell will be the lack of limited Serie Number [N° /500] :-(


IMO , it's the movement that don't suit the watch it terms of size .

PS : There is also a "old" 2824 version but the rotor is not decorated ... (But with the Number of the Serie /500 )

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The 2892 ("v3")

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Here we have the right movement in terms of lines : It's a Segull ST-18 also a Clone of ETA 2892 , like the SW-300 . But the decoration is different , the winding system is different and the rotor is also different .
Like the 2813 version , the circumflex accent of vendôme is triangle shaped .

The ST18 And The SW-300 Both clone of the ETA 2892

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"This is the best choice in terms of accuracy as the ST18 is also a clone of the ETA 2892"

6) The Bezel
(the Blue one is the gen)
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Except the shape of the of the 2824 the others are Gen-like .
Watch the Red drawing on the pics to understand what i spotted here .

7) The Deploy system :


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Sorry for the crap quality the photo is comming from a video ...

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My version don't have the "holes" in the buckle but i have seen a 21j with the right buckle on watchenden :

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The 2824 and 2892 are just gen-like :


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8) The Buckle :


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Looks fine to me ! Maybe the 2892 is a bit more gen-like in term of spacing and size !


8) The Crown

Crowns are OK execpt maybe that the 2824 is a bit too long and not deep as gen.

PS : The 2813 don't screw down ... :-(

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9) The Strap

Nothing to say here the 2824 smell like a vanilla magic tree when the 2813 smell nothing and a bit more rigid than others .
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10) Conclusion


It has it's flaws , but the Classic Fusion is a must have ! The 21j version is cheap and good looking for the price ( could be a good start in the rep world), the 2892 is pretty accurate but more expensive .
Orange flag for the 2824 ... because of the size of the movt and bezel shape . But I own it , and I love it I've had a lot of comments about it.

I hope you enjoy reading me !

Pyer
 

shirazi_r

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What an excellent guide to the different models.

From your experience it appears the 21j model is a great value! Perhaps I'll pick one up :D

As I said though, excellent work! Rep points given :)
 

ALE7575

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Nice starting in the review world!!
Congrats !!

I have a fusion too and I enjoy a lot this rep.

Thanks for sharing this work
ALE
 

Pyer

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What an excellent guide to the different models.

From your experience it appears the 21j model is a great value! Perhaps I'll pick one up :D

As I said though, excellent work! Rep points given :)

Thanks shirazi_r !

If you don't have the money to buy the v3 go for the 21j . The are well finished and they cost around 100 usd . ( Got mine from silix for 90 usd + shipping and i heard that Timeshop has them for 88usd .)




Nice starting in the review world!!
Congrats !!

I have a fusion too and I enjoy a lot this rep.

Thanks for sharing this work
ALE

Thanks a lot ALE !
 

Cee

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Nice review, thanks for spending some time on it to help us out. I wish the factories would spend more attention on this rep, as it is a beautiful watch in general. I guess most of their focus is currently on the Big Bang models.
 

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Well done, Belgium 10 points ;)
 

jiddy

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Thanks for writing such a nice buyers guide :)
Contributions like this really helps beginners and veterans alike to make the right choice.

Cheers,
J
 

chungdy

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very nice review!! why this not a sticky?

I was thinking of going for the big bang chronograph but the classic is good enough :)
So is the 2892 closest to the gen?
 

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Glad to see a review of this line. It is a very attractive watch.

I was looking at a gold version and found to be less well replicated than the non-gold.
In particular the back does not say GOLD 750, and even worse the buckle said STAINLESS STEEL on the inside.

But perhaps there are better versions out there?
 

Pyer

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very nice review!! why this not a sticky?

I was thinking of going for the big bang chronograph but the classic is good enough :)
So is the 2892 closest to the gen?

Yes In terms of movement at least ;) wich is the biggest tell on the others

Glad to see a review of this line. It is a very attractive watch.

I was looking at a gold version and found to be less well replicated than the non-gold.
In particular the back does not say GOLD 750, and even worse the buckle said STAINLESS STEEL on the inside.

But perhaps there are better versions out there?

Unfortunately I never seen a Gold Model with that engraving . But on some 2824 versions there is no-marking ...

Thanks for the review.

Fantastic, I need a black dial.

Thanks for the comment . I hope you enjoyed reading it !
 

mykeos

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First, my compliments for the great review. I think Fusion is a beautiful watch that maybe doesen't get a fair share of attention.I've decided to get one as well, but have a problem deciding which should I take the 2892 or the 2824 one.I found this 2824 model at Silix:http://www.silix-prime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=115_143&products_id=4274
which has a correct bezel shape. Considering the bezel shape was one of the bigest issues of the 2824 in this review,I really don't know what do to.The price is about the same as for the 2892,so my main concern is the case shape and size.Which one is closest to the gen?Thanks.
 

Pyer

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First, my compliments for the great review. I think Fusion is a beautiful watch that maybe doesen't get a fair share of attention.I've decided to get one as well, but have a problem deciding which should I take the 2892 or the 2824 one.I found this 2824 model at Silix:http://www.silix-prime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=115_143&products_id=4274
which has a correct bezel shape. Considering the bezel shape was one of the bigest issues of the 2824 in this review,I really don't know what do to.The price is about the same as for the 2892,so my main concern is the case shape and size.Which one is closest to the gen?Thanks.


Hello mykeos ,

Thanks for the compliments !

My advice is to buy the 2892 ( I think that every dealer can source one ) because the biggest tell on the 2824 is the movement itself ... the 2892 have the same structure as the SW-300 ( The gen's movement ) and no issue with the bezel . The only biggest tell will be the Date Wheel ... ( The one has a special module )
 

mykeos

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Thanks Pyer,I'll go with the 2892.Mybe just one more question: do you have any suggestions about the color combination: the thing is, that the only material that can be close to the gen is stainless steel or black version.Other gens have zirconium,titanium or gold.I really doubt the ss or "gold" plated ss of the reps look similar to the gen.Or am I wrong?Which color do you think is least "obviuos"?