ok,thanks again!I will definitely not choose the CF dial,because I think it doesen't look as elegant as the other version. Thanks also for the case engraving warning for the gold one,but still,my main concern is the gold color tone.I have been "googling" for 2 days now and haven't been able to find a rep to gen comparison of the rose (red?) gold on the classic fusion.There are comparisons for the Big bang watch,but imho that's different,because big bang uses so called king gold (4% more copper,therefore a more reddish look) and the fusion has red gold (as stated on hublot official web page).After looking at some rep photos on the web,I think the rep gold is more like king gold,which could be a very obvious tell,much more than engravings and the date wheel.But if I am wrong and there isn't any obvious differences regarding the gold colour, I would go for the gold,disregarding all other faults.In that case,I would also buy a 21J ss version,which is,as you wrote, a great watch for the price...