Questions on potential Noob PAM005 V4 - [QC pics allowed}

ALE7575 · 2/8/16

As commented by Polonus a nice unit. With the typical “6” marker more rounded than gen.

Crystal- V4 with small bevelled
Crown fat V3
Lever V3
Case is clearly better finished than the typical old V3, but not at the level of a complete V4 like you can see in some Noobs PAM 390. Maybe a transition model from V3 to V4. Anyway it looks very nice and would be difficult to find something better ATM.

It is impossible to see the lume sausage structure from those pics

ALE

adxc · 2/8/16

Many thanks [MENTION=28281]PolonusTM[/MENTION] and [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION]! I will post pics when I receive the watch

frank2 · 12/8/16

[MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION]

Hi ALE,

Hope I am doing it in the right way. I just ordered a v4 005. Could you mind take a look it's v4 or v3? I have no idea so need you guys helps.

Thank you

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frank2 · 12/8/16

ALE7575 said:
As commented by Polonus a nice unit. With the typical â€œ6â€ marker more rounded than gen.

Crystal- V4 with small bevelled
Crown fat V3
Lever V3
Case is clearly better finished than the typical old V3, but not at the level of a complete V4 like you can see in some Noobs PAM 390. Maybe a transition model from V3 to V4. Anyway it looks very nice and would be difficult to find something better ATM.

It is impossible to see the lume sausage structure from those pics

ALE

Hi ALE,

Do you mind help to check my QC above?

Thank you

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frank2 · 13/8/16

Does the pin looks weird?

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ALE7575 · 13/8/16

frank2 said:
Hi ALE,

Do you mind help to check my QC above?

Thank you

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It seems a typical V3, caseset, crown, CG lever...
Impossible to say the dial from those pics
ALE

frank2 · 13/8/16

ALE7575 said:
It seems a typical V3, caseset, crown, CG lever...
Impossible to say the dial from those pics
ALE

Damn... It seems it's almost impossible to get the v4 at the moment....

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frank2 · 13/8/16

ALE7575 said:
It seems a typical V3, caseset, crown, CG lever...
Impossible to say the dial from those pics
ALE

sir, thank you for help. You are the best. Do you know where I can see the difference between v3 and v4? So I could tell it by myself.

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plyschbyxa · 27/9/16

[MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] & [MENTION=28281]PolonusTM[/MENTION] mind helping to identify if this has a v4 or v3 case? Thanks!

frank2 · 29/9/16

I believe it's a v3

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ALE7575 · 2/10/16

skratcha said:
@ALE7575 & @PolonusTM mind helping to identify if this has a v4 or v3 case? Thanks!

Crystal V4
Lever and Crown V3
Caseset is not as perfect as V4 but it is better than a typical V3
Most likely a transition model between V3 and V4. It would be difficult to get better caseset at this moment (leaving aside a Noob PAM 390)
Impossible to judge about the dial version from such a pics

ALE

firs(time)r · 3/11/16

Hi,

I am new here and this is my first question, hope thats ok...
I had contacted an TD (don't kwow if i am allowed to disclose his name) about the pam 005 V4 he sells.
I asked if they are tru V4's with updated case, crown, dial ect. or the V3/V4 types
His anwser was "it's v4 right now".
Can i asume it is a tru V4? or do i have to take this with a grain of salt or do i actualy have to order and wait for the QC pics?
As i said, I am a newby so don't get mad if i'm asking the wrong questions please...

Thanks! :wave-1:

ALE7575 · 7/11/16

firs(time)r said:
Hi,

I am new here and this is my first question, hope thats ok...
I had contacted an TD (don't kwow if i am allowed to disclose his name) about the pam 005 V4 he sells.
I asked if they are tru V4's with updated case, crown, dial ect. or the V3/V4 types
His anwser was "it's v4 right now".
Can i asume it is a tru V4? or do i have to take this with a grain of salt or do i actualy have to order and wait for the QC pics?
As i said, I am a newby so don't get mad if i'm asking the wrong questions please...

Thanks! :wave-1:

You can asume or assure nothing talking about reps

Most of dealers don't know what are the differences between Noob V3 and V4
Only with good QC pics we could see the parts which are V3 and V4 in the watch that you are buying
I honestly doubt you can recieve a complete and real V4 at this moment

Regarding PAM 005 there is also the matter of the rep sausage dial version. This is really difficult to tell by pics

ALE

firs(time)r · 7/11/16

Thanks again Ale....

Your guide and other input has already helped me ALOT, and is very much appreciated!

bakerjosef · 20/11/16

How does this one look to you all? Could one of the other experts provide opinion.

Based on what I've read around here (Thank you [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION], [MENTION=65412]Bozz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=77371]kampachi[/MENTION] for your fantastic picture guides...) , this looks like a:

V4 caseset
V3 crown
V3 lever
V4 crystal

Is my analysis correct?

ALE7575 · 20/11/16

bakerjosef said:
How does this one look to you all? Could one of the other experts provide opinion.

Based on what I've read around here (Thank you @ALE7575, @Bozz and @kampachi for your fantastic picture guides...) , this looks like a:

V4 caseset
V3 crown
V3 lever
V4 crystal

Is my analysis correct?

V3 crown and lever OK
V4 crystal OK
Regarding caseset the lug @5 insertion doesn't look as V4
Maybe a transition model between V3 and V4, because the lug insertions overall don't seem as bad as a typical V3.

ALE

bakerjosef · 20/11/16

ALE7575 said:
V3 crown and lever OK
V4 crystal OK
Regarding caseset the lug @5 insertion doesn't look as V4
Maybe a transition model between V3 and V4, because the lug insertions overall don't seem as bad as a typical V3.

ALE

Thanks [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION]! You guys are fantastic teachers.

I believed it was V4 case-set, but the more I look at it, it looks like transition V4, like you said. I think I'll OK this one and wear it happily

Thank you again for educating the community.

Bozz · 20/11/16

Looking the round shoulders it looks like a V4, also the "slim" crown. The bezel is a bit strange, the bevel looks tall. Noob for sure or KW?

reckoner777 · 5/2/17

Hello PAM folks and @ALE7575,

I'm pulling the trigger on my first PAM005 and was hoping to post some QC pictures on here to confirm that it's a Noob first and foremost (I'm trying to make sure it's not an H-Fac) and see if I'm getting v4 updates or not.

But for the beginners, what are the easiest tells between H-Fac and Noob?

Thanks!

ALE7575 · 5/2/17

reckoner777 said:
Hello PAM folks and @ALE7575,

I'm pulling the trigger on my first PAM005 and was hoping to post some QC pictures on here to confirm that it's a Noob first and foremost (I'm trying to make sure it's not an H-Fac) and see if I'm getting v4 updates or not.

But for the beginners, what are the easiest tells between H-Fac and Noob?

Thanks!

Publish your pics and we will say the maker and version
Anyway a good 2015 Hmaker version is not that bad thing and the finish is even better than Noob V3
ALE

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