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[Time4Direct]

If you want the most correct pieces why are you buying a quartz Tag the 7750 is far more accurate unfortunately it's 3 times the price.
All the 177 are from same factory so chances are they are all the same at this price point.
For what these are budget reps they are fine. If you want to be a member of team lupe you have to pay for the privilege and be prepared to spend 3 times the cost of the original watch on modding it

 

[acesup11]

If you want the most correct pieces why are you buying a quartz Tag the 7750 is far more accurate unfortunately it's 3 times the price.
All the 177 are from same factory so chances are they are all the same at this price point.
For what these are budget reps they are fine. If you want to be a member of team lupe you have to pay for the privilege and be prepared to spend 3 times the cost of the original watch on modding it

I am not buying a quartz tag? I ordered the 7750 version.

 

[JC7]

I want the most correct piece i can get but the dealer is kinda playing hard ball. i am ordering 3 watches for a great price but I have complained and he said if this one isnt good he will refund the money. I don't want to pay more for the same watch somewhere else

This is the same watch everyone else gets when they order it from the dealer.. if you seem like you're going to have complaints or could cause them a lot of headache down the road it's in their best interests to say that they will refund the money to you.

 

[Time4Direct]

Yes the factories are not watch collectors and will use what they can get to make the watch.
So trying to get everything perfect is a losing battle no rep is 100% to the Gen thats why they cost so much less.
If the flaws that are present on a particular model bother you too much better to find another model that pleases you because chances are they are all from the same factory and will all have the same faults.
Personally I think these Chinese dealers have the patience of saints putting up with all the emails and taking pictures to sell a Fake watch can't possibly be financially viable better they just refund you and let you find the perfect rep yourself

 

[acesup11]

Yes the factories are not watch collectors and will use what they can get to make the watch.
So trying to get everything perfect is a losing battle no rep is 100% to the Gen thats why they cost so much less.
If the flaws that are present on a particular model bother you too much better to find another model that pleases you because chances are they are all from the same factory and will all have the same faults.
Personally I think these Chinese dealers have the patience of saints putting up with all the emails and taking pictures to sell a Fake watch can't possibly be financially viable better they just refund you and let you find the perfect rep yourself

I get it. Its just I have seen many with the correct crown spacing.

 

[Time4Direct]

Different production runs will produce different results.
These dealers don't hold stock and go to market to find watch after you order it so chances of getting the exact same watch are very low so you will get variation on them.
Only dealers that hold stock can get continuity of supply and cheap prices dont usually equate to dealers that hold stock as they have to warrant the initial outlay of funds to buy the stock.
Dealers that just go and find the watch after it's sold don't have such constraints and can be cheaper but can't offer continuity of supply to the same extent

 

[acesup11]

Different production runs will produce different results.
These dealers don't hold stock and go to market to find watch after you order it so chances of getting the exact same watch are very low so you will get variation on them.
Only dealers that hold stock can get continuity of supply and cheap prices dont usually equate to dealers that hold stock as they have to warrant the initial outlay of funds to buy the stock.
Dealers that just go and find the watch after it's sold don't have such constraints and can be cheaper but can't offer continuity of supply to the same extent

oh ok thats makes sense thanks.

 

[JC7]

Time4Direct is teaching you a lot as noob.. if you retain this stuff this hobby will be better for you and you'll be able to make wiser decisions faster.. don't forget to have fun.. for the most part if you get a bad rep you can always sell it if you don't mind taking a bit of a loss.

 

[Time4Direct]

also worth remembering is that some of these $200 reps posted by members actually have closer to $1000 invested in them with parts that have been changed or modded.
If you are prepared to pay then this watch could arrive just as you want but you would need to buy from Vacs or someone who will mod it prior to shipping

 

[acesup11]

also worth remembering is that some of these $200 reps posted by members actually have closer to $1000 invested in them with parts that have been changed or modded.
If you are prepared to pay then this watch could arrive just as you want but you would need to buy from Vacs or someone who will mod it prior to shipping

I have seen a post in the past of an order of 10 watches that were sent to one member on here of 177L and all the crowns were good and someone even made a comment to that effect.

 

[JC7]

i think you're missing the point and dealers are watching this thread and writing your name down. lol

 

[acesup11]

i think you're missing the point and dealers are watching this thread and writing your name down. lol

Well lets hope not.

 

[Time4Direct]

Yes this is more than possible if from the same production run but if the member reordered today it could be a completely different story.
Only way you can guarantee it is as you want is to buy directly from a modder who will be in a position to make it so.
Otherwise you are going to have to be lucky with normal dealers can happen but luck of the draw
Dealers in the main don't make the watches and are usually only able to offer what are available

 

[shandroid]

Aces - I'm the normally resident noob-hugger... I like looking out for noobs, but seriously brother, you've found the wrong hobby if you want 100% perfection 100% of the time...

Take the flaws away from our reps (as much as we complain when they're there, and say we'd love them more without the imperfections) and you effectively remove about half of what keeps us interested... Flaws are sort of what this hobby is about - they keep things interesting, and for the most part the dealers are great to deal with, but its a 2 WAY STREET...

I'm not convinced you'll listen, but if I were you, I'd ask myself why you're here - why are you collecting reps? The answer to this question could be the difference between a very enjoyable hobby, or the start of endless headaches and embarrassing explanations to your friends about how you thought it was gen- 'Promise!'...

Chill out brother - have fun, ok

 

[acesup11]

Aces - I'm the normally resident noob-hugger... I like looking out for noobs, but seriously brother, you've found the wrong hobby if you want 100% perfection 100% of the time...

Take the flaws away from our reps (as much as we complain when they're there, and say we'd love them more without the imperfections) and you effectively remove about half of what keeps us interested... Flaws are sort of what this hobby is about - they keep things interesting, and for the most part the dealers are great to deal with, but its a 2 WAY STREET...

I'm not convinced you'll listen, but if I were you, I'd ask myself why you're here - why are you collecting reps? The answer to this question could be the difference between a very enjoyable hobby, or the start of endless headaches and embarrassing explanations to your friends about how you thought it was gen- 'Promise!'...

Chill out brother - have fun, ok

I appreciate it a lot. I would never pass it off as real even though I can afford it. I am kinda cheap though lol.

 

[Time4Direct]

Just a little free advice if you are going to fixate on a certain aspect of a watch unless you are prepared to pay to insure this is correct the only thing you will achieve is driving the dealers and yourself mad.

You have to understand until the factories can produce perfect production runs of the same items there will always be variations if you can't tolerate this then this hobby will be a constant source of disappointment to you rather than fun.

Even Gen manufacturers have variation in production and they have the resources to buy from the same part manufacturer all the time.
So in reality it's unrealistic to expect that a factory buying parts to make an illegal item could have a better production set up than the Gen manufacturers

 

[acesup11]

Just a little free advice if you are going to fixate on a certain aspect of a watch unless you are prepared to pay to insure this is correct the only thing you will achieve is driving the dealers and yourself mad.

You have to understand until the factories can produce perfect production runs of the same items there will always be variations if you can't tolerate this then this hobby will be a constant source of disappointment to you rather than fun.

Even Gen manufacturers have variation in production and they have the resources to buy from the same part manufacturer all the time.
So in reality it's unrealistic to expect that a factory buying parts to make an illegal item could have a better production set up than the Gen manufacturers

I do love free advice. Thanks so much.

 

[JC7]

I appreciate it a lot. I would never pass it off as real even though I can afford it. I am kinda cheap though lol.

If you can afford gens but want to buy reps to be frugal then just post in the "wanted to buy" section that you are looking for highly modded reps and are willing to pay what they're worth... IF this is the case then you'll be able to eliminate the "headache" that you seem to be putting yourself through right now.

BTW.. Mr. I can afford gens.. you got a lot of free advice tonight. I think you can spend the $35 on a VIP membership to the forum.

 

[shandroid]

If you can afford gens but want to buy reps to be frugal then just post in the "wanted to buy" section that you are looking for highly modded reps and are willing to pay what they're worth... IF this is the case then you'll be able to eliminate the "headache" that you seem to be putting yourself through right now.

BTW.. Mr. I can afford gens.. you got a lot of free advice tonight. I think you can spend the $35 on a VIP membership to the forum.

Oh, stop rep-whoring, would ya!

 

[JC7]

LOL.. i think most would consider my posts the opposite of rep whoring. Some may think I was trying to rep taken away. lol