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Preparing budget 5513 build

jackflash

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Yes, ETA movements will fit in a Ruby case. Here’s what you need.

Yuki adapter/movement ring. Holds the movement in place in the case:
http://www.yukiwatch.net/ETA-adaptor-retro-fit-cal-15X0-case-p35063689

Yuki movement clamps and screws. Secures the movement together with the movement ring in the case:
http://www.yukiwatch.net/Setting-Bridge-and-screws-for-ETA-adaptor-set-p35127634

Rafflestime dial spacer, supports the dial sitting on top of the movement.
http://rafflestime.com/dial-movement-spacer-for-eta-2824-2836-or-others-that-fit/

Found a link to someone who did a similar build:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...first-build-5513-submariner-with-vietnam-case
 
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Thank you jackflash again! If I end up getting Helenarou dial for 26mm ETA movement, then I guess I will need dial spacer and screws right? Or, do I still need to get something like these?
- Dial spacer: http://rafflesdials.com/10-pcs-plast...day-date-dial/
- Screws: http://rafflesdials.com/10-small-sta...t-spacer-ring/
For a movement clamp, are you referring to something like this?
- Movement clamp: https://www.amazon.com/Watchmakers-M.../dp/B07LC9B9K9
I would appreciate the feedback for this, if possible. tripdog jackflash
bibbyjustin1 I've read from some other forum that the crown of Ruby's case is already at a fair quality that's similar to what Athaya offers.

An ETA 2846 is not going to fit in a gen' spec' case - the stem height is wrong. If using an ETA you need a 2842 or equivalent - stem height of 1.8 (+/- 0.2 mm)

Adding a dial spacer is only going to increase stem height, it's a no date function movement, so depending on what movement you use, you may or may not need a dial spacer to raise/lower the stem height in the case.

You'll need movement tabs and screws to clamp the movement in place inside the case, HR sells them.

Athaya crowns and tubes are pretty basic in quality, have weak clutch and spring mechanisms and the threads are covered in burr. Viet' crowns are slightly better in quality, tubes are made of brass so virtually useless. Neither crowns are close copies of the genuine item - both will be spotted instantly as aftermarket.

Regarding hands, aside from the slightly convex shape of the minute hand, Raffles Time hands are far superior to JKH and Clarks - both of which have second hands with off centre pinions and look like they've been sprayed thickly with chrome paint giving that soft rounded finish to the surface. Clarks hour and minute hands aren't too bad, the JKH hour and minute hands are way off, the second hands on both as I said are pure shit.

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tripdog jackflash Very many thanks again for clarifying all of these. It does really help a lot!

With your suggestions, my order list will look like below:

- Ruby's Watch "gen spec" case
- Swiss ETA 2824 Movement - It seems fitting low beat movement is difficult to find without modifying one. Anyway, I reckon this is a better movement than 2846?
- Helenarou Dial (26mm for ETA movement)
- Hands from Raffles Time (http://rafflestime.com/yellow-merc-submariner-watch-hands-for-eta-2824-2836-metallic/) - Would appreciate if you can see if this would be the one!
- Ofrei Crown (PA 462-66, Diameter: 30.45mm)
- Movement Adapter from Yuki,if not provided by Ruby's Watch
- Movement Clamp/Screw Set from Helenarou
- Dial Spacer from Raffles Time
- Fat Spring Bars from Yuki, if not provided by Ruby's Watch


Can you please see if I am missing anything or if any of the above would not be compatible to each other? I look forward to starting the collecting pieces :)

Again, I can't thank you guys enough!
 

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An 2824 is not a lowbeat buddy....it has been mentioned before, it is 28800 or 36000...the 2846 is 21600
The Raffles hands will fit the 2846
 

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An 2824 is not a lowbeat buddy....it has been mentioned before, it is 28800 or 36000...the 2846 is 21600
The Raffles hands will fit the 2846

Yes, I am aware from the previous posts that ETA 2846 is a low beat movement. But, it seems this will not fit into Ruby's case. Would Raffles hands fit 2824 still?
 

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An 2824 is not a lowbeat buddy....it has been mentioned before, it is 28800 or 36000...the 2846 is 21600
The Raffles hands will fit the 2846

High beat low, low beat buddy, it won't fit the case.
 

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Hands will fit...crossed your post Trip...so the 2824 is the way to go?
 
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tripdog jackflash Very many thanks again for clarifying all of these. It does really help a lot!

With your suggestions, my order list will look like below:

- Ruby's Watch "gen spec" case
- Swiss ETA 2824 Movement - It seems fitting low beat movement is difficult to find without modifying one. Anyway, I reckon this is a better movement than 2846?
- Helenarou Dial (26mm for ETA movement)
- Hands from Raffles Time (http://rafflestime.com/yellow-merc-submariner-watch-hands-for-eta-2824-2836-metallic/) - Would appreciate if you can see if this would be the one!
- Ofrei Crown (PA 462-66, Diameter: 30.45mm)
- Movement Adapter from Yuki,if not provided by Ruby's Watch
- Movement Clamp/Screw Set from Helenarou
- Dial Spacer from Raffles Time
- Fat Spring Bars from Yuki, if not provided by Ruby's Watch


Can you please see if I am missing anything or if any of the above would not be compatible to each other? I look forward to starting the collecting pieces :)

Again, I can't thank you guys enough!

I should have typed 2842, not 2824. The latter is high beat, the former is low beat, both will fit the Ruby case.
 

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I should have typed 2842, not 2824. The latter is high beat, the former is low beat, both will fit the Ruby case.

I see, thank you so much! Then I will try to get ETA 2842. Would this fit well with the others? I wish I am not missing anything now :)

Much appreciated tripdog
 

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All things considered sounds like the way to go.
 

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jackflash Really can’t thank you more! Will try to show the outcome here (probably much later).

Thank you all!
 

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Looking forward to seeing your watch come together! Keep us posted.
 
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I'm new here and curious. I haven't thought of building a watch before but than I saw this post. Where does one start on an adventure like that? Say I wanted to build something along the lines of a Thousands of feet U-Boat.
 

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I'm new here and curious. I haven't thought of building a watch before but than I saw this post. Where does one start on an adventure like that? Say I wanted to build something along the lines of a Thousands of feet U-Boat.

Just follow the thread above, a full manual on how to build a 5513
 

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I tried to page through the thread to see the full manual for a 5513, but didn't see anything except some specific links to parts and some references to a person named Ruby. I also saw the link to what different factories best produce what. That said, are there also "factories" and reps for the parts? So for my example of a Uboat is there someone who reps the cases or someone who reps the movements etc?