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Poor disclosure in sales threads!

sub4me

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U didn't tear anything apart buddy, the ding wasn't there when I sent it out, u came down from whinging about everything to saying it was just that ding that wouldn't fly, who's to know you didn't drop the watch when you opened the package, wouldve been pretty easy to do being no band at all. Are you sure you didn't drop it I mean you can easily forget that you dropped it or something can't u, we've all been guilty og that.

Are you F'ing stupid?? Your really willing to give up your reputation as a member here for one watch?? Un F'ing belivable.

Do you really think shan is gonna be affected by one watch?? I suppose this one sale was so important to you and you needed the funds so bad to buy your next fake watch that you were willing to F over a long term good standing member or any of us that would have bought from you.

I strongly advise you to refund him NOW you idiot. Go borrow from your mother, go cut the neighbors grass, or suck a few cocks, whatever you got to do to get the funds.

I really hope shan shows up at your door and takes pics, LMFAO.
 

set2374

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Ninja, I am just don't understand what you're trying to do here. I guess it's possible you didn't notice that chip before you shipped the watch (although I really can't see how that could happen). You're basically telling a well respected member to f-ck off because he accepted your "near mint" description and he didn't specifically ask if the chrono resets to 12 or whether there is any physical damage to the watch??? Give me a f-cking break. You knew about these flaws and you played coy with your description. You claim you sold the watch to Shannon for a bargain. While $200 might be a great price for a SA V2 even as a good "daily beater" may not be a terrible deal, Shannon only buys mint and near mint watches regardless of the cost. He wouldn't have spent $200 for a dinged up watch or even $150--even if you think you were selling it for a good price. If you say a watch is "near mint", it should be near mint regardless of the asking price.

In the end, you really should take the watch back and give shannon a refund. You clearly lost this battle. Based on what I have herd, I would be very reluctant to do business with you.

As a side note, Shannon, I am glad my sale worked out with you. I would hate to be in Ninja's shoes right now. :)
 

davylloyd

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This thread is a car wreck.

Shandroid has been shafted, the pictures of the watch do the talking, and watches simply do not get damaged like that when well packaged.

Ninja, I think that for the sake of $200 you have damaged your reputation on this forum for good. You haven't made even one gesture toward making this right, in short you are a complete and utter disgrace.

I have a suggestion for salvaging something from the car wreck, with the permission of the Admin team.

Could we raffle the watch, at say $20 a pop? It only takes ten of us to get Shannon his dough back, all proceeds above that to go to the forum. I'm in, unless there's a better idea.
 

shandroid

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Guys, this became more about principle for me than anything else when;

a) the seller treated me like a complete dick from the start and lied through his teeth.

b) the seller tried to make out I had done wrong by him in a sale months ago, yet mentioned nothing of the 'issue' with me until I received this SA, and certainly gave me know way of making good on it with him - something I would have done without fuss!

c) some other 'well respected' members decided to get on the bandwagon and no doubt give this guy some sort of props behind the scenes...

And for what?! For no other reason than to stir shit, and flap their Idiotic jaw!

I've taken a step back and analysed this thread - I've read and re-read every PM to the seller and to the other dickheads (dickHEAD, in fairness) involved in this and the other mess and i re-read this whole shitty thread from start to finish, just to see if, as time has began to pass, I regret anything I've said, or am ashamed about my approach in some way... After all, there is always a better way, right?!

Well, frustrations definitely got the better of me, and my anger became a little apparent here and there, but the sentiment of what I've said to everyone that has decided to involve themselves in my business directly, and indirectly as a result of dealing with me is still something I feel 100% (!!!!!!!) justified in stating!

One member in particular can, as I've said directly to him, GO **** HIMSELF! Others, I feel I may have been too harsh with, but like I've explained to them in private, harsh or not, my sentiment under the circumstances was on the money.

To be frank, Ninja and his games are disappointing for similar reasons to the other members behind-the-scenes involvement in something they had no right to play in - I really just expected more from these men.

Do I think I'm perfect? **** NO! Jeez, I've had some doozies over the years, but I've always always always tried to man up, and make right on MY mistakes, and or, be appropriately accommodating in facilitating a fair agreement and compensation from others who've made (probably) honest mistakes in their dealings with me... Isn't that the way to go when dealing with things of a somewhat subjective nature??? As a note, I've always followed protocol too, always involved mods early, always had my ducks in a row regarding background information on the situation to help the mods with a quick resolution, always gained permission before escalating a situation and always (that I can remember) respected the forum as a privilege, not a right.

While I don't mean to inadvertently slander anyone by saying this, and I have no specific, 1, 2 or even 3 people in mind when I say it, I will say that the people whose opinion of me I value, is still good. Others have simply shown themselves to be gutless wonders with less backbone than a tub of half set jelly. I'm glad I know where I stand with them.

Ninja, bro - you're a dick and this all had no need to go where it's going. You had control of the situation and the opportunity to make it right, now my friend, you do not. You lied and dodged and ducked and weaved, and now I will control the end to this shit fight.

Stupid!

Ps - Rudy, thanks for clearing the air.

Best...

Shannon






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Shandroid--- I hope this works out for you. I understand the frustration.


Ninja- I'm not sure you are being completely honest here. It's your conscience, I guess.
 

arkseven

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This is totally ridiculous! Shan has been shafted royally by a liar and a cheat. There is no way that damage like this happened in shipping and with a reputation like Shan's I do not believe for one minute that he dropped it. That's ludicrous.

When something like this happens it shakes the community. People become distrusting and suspicious of each other and it ruins the community spirit. Without trust this site can't operate effectively. There is nowhere else on the internet like this and users who fail to disclose/lie about watches ruin it for everybody.

It's obvious what has happened here and it needs resolving.
 

sub4me

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ninja, your gonna need some lube soon.:hehehe:

Let me add that any of you cowards who contacted Shan with bad stuff to say have no clue WTF your going on about. Some of you like to do the PM back and forth thing talking shit about others. How about you grow a set and post in the thread instead of hiding behind PMs filled with lies.:goat:
 

ninja

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Ok ok I will refund, when I get home. I just woke up. But I'm still adamant that ding wasn't there
 

Jeremy

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Ok ok I will refund, when I get home.

Good call.

I'm still adamant that ding wasn't there
Dude, really?

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shandroid

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Let me add that any of you cowards who contacted Shan with bad stuff to say have no clue WTF your going on about. Some of you like to do the PM back and forth thing talking shit about others. How about you grow a set and post in the thread instead of hiding behind PMs filled with lies.:goat:

And still waiting.

With the exception of one guy - who I respect for stating his opinion - noone has come forward. To that one guy - you know who you are - kudos to you. I believe we have a newfound respect for one another.

Ninja, about time you saw sense.

Check your PM later - when I get time I'll be in touch there.

Shannon



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I've taken a step back and analysed this thread - I've read and re-read every PM to the seller and to the other dickheads (dickHEAD, in fairness) involved in this and the other mess and i re-read this whole shitty thread from start to finish, just to see if, as time has began to pass, I regret anything I've said, or am ashamed about my approach in some way... After all, there is always a better way, right?!

Well, frustrations definitely got the better of me, and my anger became a little apparent here and there, but the sentiment of what I've said to everyone that has decided to involve themselves in my business directly, and indirectly as a result of dealing with me is still something I feel 100% (!!!!!!!) justified in stating!


To be frank, Ninja and his games are disappointing for similar reasons to the other members behind-the-scenes involvement in something they had no right to play in - I really just expected more from these men.

Do I think I'm perfect? **** NO! Jeez, I've had some doozies over the years, but I've always always always tried to man up, and make right on MY mistakes, and or, be appropriately accommodating in facilitating a fair agreement and compensation from others who've made (probably) honest mistakes in their dealings with me... Isn't that the way to go when dealing with things of a somewhat subjective nature??? As a note, I've always followed protocol too, always involved mods early, always had my ducks in a row regarding background information on the situation to help the mods with a quick resolution, always gained permission before escalating a situation and always (that I can remember) respected the forum as a privilege, not a right.

While I don't mean to inadvertently slander anyone by saying this, and I have no specific, 1, 2 or even 3 people in mind when I say it, I will say that the people whose opinion of me I value, is still good. Others have simply shown themselves to be gutless wonders with less backbone than a tub of half set jelly. I'm glad I know where I stand with them.



Shannon






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:clap:

This proves why you're always on top of many people to deal with list.


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GBOGH

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Hope everything gets worked out, and all is well in repdom again.
 

Rudy40

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I really hope this ends well! I really do!
 

shandroid

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Sub, not entirely sure what the wait is, but was planning to ship the watch back to him today. I'm sure he'll come good.

I really hope this ends well! I really do!

I'm sure it will mate, thanks.
 

sub4me

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Sub, not entirely sure what the wait is, but was planning to ship the watch back to him today. I'm sure he'll come good.

I really hope he does for you and for himself.

These things and others are what keeps me from offering watches for sale here. Its not a problem for me to list watches and take pics, infact its kinda fun for me to make a sales post and I also like being able to give members discounts but the way so many members try to take advantage here sickens me, and its not just here, ebay also. I closed my ebay seller account because I was tired of being ripped off by guys using PP accounts. I'm not gonna go into detail of the ways how they do it, but its not to difficult to figure out if your clever.

Look, every time you list a sale its a F'ing risk, I'm tired with this BS, although I can say I have never had a problem myself here.

To me its just not worth it anymore. If I'm tired with a watch I give it to a close family member or sell it for nothing to the local shop. I just don't need the hassle of buying and selling shit on the web, F that.