{*PCTeam*} WARNING !!!!!!!!! - Dial ISSUE at "2" in PAM 111 V3 Noob- *****

[45acp]

Obviously the factories don't care about integrity, it's an illegal business afterall.

I think this is generally true for the rep industry overall, but I don't know if it's the case with the "noob factory." More than any other manufacturer they have a reputation for consistently producing highly accurate, high quality (though QC issues still abound) watches. They have a lot of value built up in their name, and cater heavily to a relatively discerning niche with watches like this, so they have an incentive not to do stuff like throw old, inaccurate dials in with a batch of new watches lest people not go all batty every time there's a new noob release in the works.

Who knows how or why it happened, and I agree that it's relatively insignificant (I own lots of pams, and would never have noticed), but it didn't go unnoticed. If people reject their QC pics because of this (which I think they have a right to do),I expect they will take notice.

 

[LuckyH]

Who knows how or why it happened, and I agree that it's relatively insignificant (I own lots of pams, and would never have noticed), but it didn't go unnoticed. If people reject their QC pics because of this (which I think they have a right to do),I expect they will take notice.

This basically answers my question. I ordered my NOOB v3 this week due to the great reviews (and breakdown comparison between the gen, h factory, and noob). I will be sure to post my QC pictures if I have any doubts. Why pay more for a v3 when it is not as advertized. In my opinion, we wouldn't have purchased the v3 if it were not one of the best out of the box rep 111 to date.

 

[45acp]

This basically answers my question. I ordered my NOOB v3 this week due to the great reviews (and breakdown comparison between the gen, h factory, and noob). I will be sure to post my QC pictures if I have any doubts. Why pay more for a v3 when it is not as advertized. In my opinion, we wouldn't have purchased the v3 if it were not one of the best out of the box rep 111 to date.

I mean, it's still as I see it a very nice watch, and if the 2 is all that's off a very accurate one. But if dealers are going to advertise a watch with a specific dial, buyers have a right to demand that one if they're paying full freight.

 

[d4m.test]

The fact of the matter is, the Noob factory v3 is an amazing watch. True the font of the 2 is slightly off but as many others have said, it's insignificant in the overall scheme of things. Rob (I forgot his user name) has an h-factory 111 from a year or so ago and its withstood a lot (pools, oceans, 105? heat and -3? cold, etc.). I think the real problem here is the fact that the factories are promoting something they aren't producing. It's not the TD's fault that the factory gave them the wrong product.

 

[stonesix]

I too bought the watch based on the 150 pics tear down review showing how accurate was the V3 and thus its fetching its premium price. The watch was priced accordingly yet the dial has spoiled its super rep status.

The point here its a real flaw, not how significant or insignificant, noticeable or not. Similarly to the square cut of the CG, does it noticable? No, but its not the case here when we talk about Super rep. Its quite anal so to speak but this actually making another good version end of the day. Else if everyone start to accept such flaw and think its not significant, we are moving 2 step back rather than 1 step forward.

Its not the same V3 that priced $60 more.
I believed many will be disappointed if they make the purchase based on its closeness to Gen but ended up with something that is not and as you have expected.

End of the day you still have to teach your heart to accept it as this shit happens in rep world.

Bravo to ppl like ALE who makes this dark-side a little brighter for newcomer, his intentions should not be mistaken, he is merely analytically obsessed for details, and I think its benefit everyone who like to know the differences each version compared.

 

[puretime]

Reported to the noob maker, all wrong dials are returning to the dial factory, correct dials version is still available and screened.
All my wrong dial PAM111 are returned to the noob maker and will be replaced to correct dial.
Please let me know if you get wrong dial PAM111 and I will get it replaced immediately.
If you didnt realise the problem and accepted the QC pics and watch shipped. Let me know and we will send you a free correct dial or please send it back and we will replace for you (if you dont feel good to replace the dial by yourself).

Thanks to RWI for spotting the flaws in time and minimised the damage.

 

[MMs]

Angus! Angus! Angus!

Reported to the noob maker, all wrong dials are returning to the dial factory, correct dials version is still available and screened.
All my wrong dial PAM111 are returned to the noob maker and will be replaced to correct dial.
Please let me know if you get wrong dial PAM111 and I will get it replaced immediately.
If you didnt realise the problem and accepted the QC pics and watch shipped. Let me know and we will send you a free correct
dial or please send it back and we will replace for you (if you dont feel good to replace the dial by yourself).

Thanks to RWI for spotting the flaws in time and minimised the damage.

see this guys? this is what the best of the best is like. Angus for president.

:bananalama:

 

[watchman12345]

Well done Angus

 

[Ruski91]

Wow angus, thats a pretty bold move right there. Way to take the high ground. I am sure many here will appreciate that!

 

[45acp]

Thanks for the hard work Ale and Angus. Guys like you are the reason reps are as good as they are today.

 

[puretime]

see this guys? this is what the best of the best is like. Angus for president.

:bananalama:

Hehe thanks man I am just doing what a dealer should do And what a forum member can do

Well done Angus

Thanks

Wow angus, thats a pretty bold move right there. Way to take the high ground. I am sure many here will appreciate that!

Seeking for perfection has been always my ultimate goal, I cant tolerate any mistakes which can be corrected in advance.

Thanks for your words my friend

 

[Rwolf]

Reported to the noob maker, all wrong dials are returning to the dial factory, correct dials version is still available and screened.
All my wrong dial PAM111 are returned to the noob maker and will be replaced to correct dial.
Please let me know if you get wrong dial PAM111 and I will get it replaced immediately.
If you didnt realise the problem and accepted the QC pics and watch shipped. Let me know and we will send you a free correct dial or please send it back and we will replace for you (if you dont feel good to replace the dial by yourself).

Thanks to RWI for spotting the flaws in time and minimised the damage.

Great! Thank you very much Angus. And many thanks to the Noob factory. To err is human...

 

[puretime]

Great! Thank you very much Angus. And many thanks to the Noob factory. To err is human...

No problems

 

[Jay123]

What a nice gesture by puretime!

Mary is emailing me the 2nd QC pics tomorrow as she said she has got hold of the correct dial for me, so hopefully my dial will be ok, fingers crossed

 

[emmune]

Taking the term trusted dealer to a whole other level.

Good stuff Angus.

 

[ALE7575]

An exemplary Dealer- Puretime

Reported to the noob maker, all wrong dials are returning to the dial factory, correct dials version is still available and screened.
All my wrong dial PAM111 are returned to the noob maker and will be replaced to correct dial.
Please let me know if you get wrong dial PAM111 and I will get it replaced immediately.
If you didnt realise the problem and accepted the QC pics and watch shipped. Let me know and we will send you a free correct dial or please send it back and we will replace for you (if you dont feel good to replace the dial by yourself).

Thanks to RWI for spotting the flaws in time and minimised the damage.

Dear Angus

Well, we have here one of the best and more professional reactions of a Dealer in this market (if not the best ever seen).
For some reason you are the Dealer of the Year 2011 and from this moment IMHO you deserve the same in this year.

Really CONGRATS for your decision and your deal with Noob.
Thanks also to Noob to show why is, most likeley, the best replica maker in the world.

I was preparing a post to talk more about this situation but I have had to delete it, as you can see between post #69 and #70, after reading your definitive post. Now I'm spechless
Many people must be grateful for your current behavior.

Let's see how runs all that, and I would wish to you and Noob the lower possible damage due to this unpleasant matter.

Some things are changing in replica world and you are one of the protagonist.
I hope all Dealers take the same way

Thanks my friend
Sincerely
ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks also to PCTeam member Rwolf who started the contact with Angus and all members who have been involved in this thread
This is a success of our RWI forum
As above said: Something is changing in replica world !!!

Thanks and Congrats

ALE

 

[JoehwrfcJ]

Just to say that ryanwayer is also offering to have the dial corrected

Top notch that fellow

 

[JoehwrfcJ]

I've found him to be a truly excellent dealer and his service is second to none

 

[puretime]

What a nice gesture by puretime!

Mary is emailing me the 2nd QC pics tomorrow as she said she has got hold of the correct dial for me, so hopefully my dial will be ok, fingers crossed

No worries buddy, I have personally screened all the wrong ones and returned them to the noob maker yesterday after reading this thread. Only correct ones are in my office and will have a lot more in 2-3 days after those wrong ones are replaced

Taking the term trusted dealer to a whole other level.

Good stuff Angus.

Thanks

Dear Angus

Well, we have here one of the best and more professional reactions of a Dealer in this market (if not the best ever seen).
For some reason you are the Dealer of the Year 2011 and from this moment IMHO you deserve the same in this year.

Really CONGRATS for your decision and your deal with Noob.
Thanks also to Noob to show why is, most likeley, the best replica maker in the world.

I was preparing a post to talk more about this situation but I have had to delete it, as you can see between post #69 and #70, after reading your definitive post. Now I'm spechless
Many people must be grateful for your current behavior.

Let's see how runs all that, and I would wish to you and Noob the lower possible damage due to this unpleasant matter.

Some things are changing in replica world and you are one of the protagonist.
I hope all Dealers take the same way

Thanks my friend
Sincerely
ALE

Thank you for your words ALE, it has been my great honor to be invited to be part of the RWI Panerai Expert Team. I am always learning from you guys. As I have said earlier, as a forum member / part of the PAM expert team, I have to inform the correct source about this problem which is the noob maker; as a trusted dealer, I have to take responsibility on my customers who have been so supportive to me for the past years, I cannot let them down, so I have to offer free replacement dials to them.

I am just doing what I should do, nothing more than that, everyone here would do the same if they were me

Again thanks again to ALE, other PAM Expert Team members and all the RWI members who work so hard to protect our interests.