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{*PCTeam*} PAM 111 Noob V3 - Discussion, Compilation of data, Wristshots, QC pics

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kampachi

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ALE7575 said:
I agree partially with Sora
Lever seems Noob V3, but case could be Noob V4 I would like to see pics from 6 or 12
Enlarging the pics of caseback, crown seems "FAT" like V3, of course neither KW nor H maker (old or new). We would need a pic from 3 to confirm

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This could be a new batch of 111's as the old serial number caseback engraving was slightly smaller. However, the case could be a v3 or v4 because old v3's had some batches with quite good lugs that are not so close to the edge.. What interests me more is the lever.. looks like a v4 but unfortunately bad fitting..

Managed to get hold of the link for the qc pictures. There are more here: http://s361.photobucket.com/user/0802174C/media/IMG_8914_1.jpg.html
 
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kampachi said:
This could be a new batch of 111's as the old serial number caseback engraving was slightly smaller. However, the case could be a v3 or v4 because old v3's had some batches with quite good lugs that are not so close to the edge.. What interests me more is the lever.. looks like a v4 but unfortunately bad fitting..

Managed to get hold of the link for the qc pictures. There are more here: http://s361.photobucket.com/user/0802174C/media/IMG_8914_1.jpg.html
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Regarding lever, studying the pics I get a bit confused because the angle of the lever seems different from two pics shown. First one seems V3 and second one seems V4, (but maybe it is the angle of the pics)


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LEVER V3 type


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LEVER V4 type


Regarding mid case, a V3 case with corrected lug not so close to the cushion edge would be a V4, or at least a transition to V4. This is a nomination matter.

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Hi all

Got my qc pic.

Just need some clarification.

Is the circled item called the crown guard pin?
Mine is a little protruding. Is it normal ?

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Different angle
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Did I get a v3 or v4

The wording isn't in blue...
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alwaysusing said:
Hi all

Got my qc pic.

Just need some clarification.

Is the circled item called the crown guard pin?
Mine is a little protruding. Is it normal ?

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Different angle
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Did I get a v3 or v4 [emoji23][emoji23]

The wording isn't in blue...
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Can get more shots on the lever?
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Need this perspective to see the angle :)


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Hey guys! The PAM 111 is my very first rep and I am a bit excited :)

Just got my QC pics from Ryan - would you be so kind to have a quick look at them?

What do you think about the watch itself (I saw the small issue with the strap)

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Thanks!
 
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Hi, getting a PAM111N Noob V3 from Sora and just received my QC pictures. Will be getting Rubber strap instead of the leather one pictured.

Generally it looks good, doesn't look like there is problem with the dial ("2" looks ok), pre-v hands, deep number engraving, sharp CG edge etc. Luck out on the swan neck screw as well

Getting some close up on the inner edge (which seems to have some scratch) and a better look at the CG (trying to get one that can see the roller). Welcome any other feedback :)

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Articblade said:
Darn i don't have access to repgeek. When is the new 111s coming? Any improvement to the movement?
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Its not a 'new' batch. More like random batches or maybe certain TD's stock certain models, thus getting the old cases.
 
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I have the same case with same lug location (improved?) got mine like 2 months ago. There is not movement improvements, it's same old noob 6497 movement.
I'm using this one as a everyday watch and it's flawless so far.
 
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kampachi said:
@Articblade watch looks okay. typical v3.

On a side note, i think the latest batch of 111s are coming with a good case. The lugs are exceptionally nice. Check out the pics here http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=256257
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You are right

The mid case of the reepgeek watch is V4
Although the crown is old FAT V3

In these times of transition to new cases we are seeing all possible mixing, either frrm Noob or H maker or KW
 
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ALE7575 said:
You are right

The mid case of the reepgeek watch is V4
Although the crown is old FAT V3

In these times of transition to new cases we are seeing all possible mixing, either frrm Noob or H maker or KW
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I read through the entire 105 pages of post and only found mention for the lever shape different, but it didn't say anything about the correct lug. Would you be so kind to point me to a link that show the difference in the lug shape?

The FAT crown is standard for today PAM111 correct? I don't see any rep that has a thin crown?
 
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Articblade said:
I read through the entire 105 pages of post and only found mention for the lever shape different, but it didn't say anything about the correct lug. Would you be so kind to point me to a link that show the difference in the lug shape?
The FAT crown is standard for today PAM111 correct? I don't see any rep that has a thin crown?
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Version Noob V3
The lug shape was not completely accurate and the insertion of the lugs to the mid case was no clean and the upper part of the lugs was placed very high near the edge of the cushion shape
Crown was FAT whereas last series of gen PAMs have SLIM crown (NO FAT CROWN TODAY)
Lever had the roller support with a higher angle than gen
CG pin was not perfect
You can see the differences and comparisons in below threads:
PAM Luminor 44mm CASE-SETS - Noob vs. KW vs. H maker - ALE-Klockis Review
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=150417
The Last Steps to the Gen(Part II)-Crown-Pin gasket-Gears-Wheels&Engravings
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=134437

Version Noob V4
The lug shape is corrected and the insertion of the lugs to the mid case is almost perfect, the placement of the upper part is very good, maybe a bit detached from the cushion edge. The finish id better than previous version, it is really awesome very gen-like
Crown should be SLIM in a V4, but there are some batches of Noob V4 with FAT crown, but this is not correct
CG pin is really improved
We can see some improved levers (although no completely accurate) in V4 casesets, but it is not easy and the most are like V3 lever (this is a flaw to be corrected in Noob V4
Anyway it happens the same as H maker and KW new casesets, there re a lot of mixing of old and new parts and we must be careful with QC pics.
We wil have to wait for the stabilization of the production to get correct casesets of the new versions from all makers


Good luck
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Hey guys, received my pam111 and its pretty amazing so far. pics in link if anyone wants to have a look at the lugs etc since kampachi wanted to look at em.

http://imgur.com/a/soeE2

Already thinking of getting my second piece. Pam 441 or Pam 382. Which would be a safer bet in terms of gen-like reps?
 
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karhsdizzle said:
Hey guys, received my pam111 and its pretty amazing so far. pics in link if anyone wants to have a look at the lugs etc since kampachi wanted to look at em.

http://imgur.com/a/soeE2

Already thinking of getting my second piece. Pam 441 or Pam 382. Which would be a safer bet in terms of gen-like reps?
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Really nice. Are there machining lines on the inside of the lugs?


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