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{*PCTeam*} Noob 360 release - Discussion - ( QC pics allowed )

Rwolf

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Is it me or does hfac v2 look closer to that than the noob?

The color only. I dont like the H caseset, flawfull, especially the crown guard.

The building of the H caseset is completely wrong. The glass gets stuck on the bezel, which is then pressed on the case. But in the gen and Noob glass is put on the case. The bezel protects the glass.

The bottom edge of the H-bezel is too high. The profile of the midcase is too low. The CG is completely wrong. CG pin decentralized, CG lever is too thin, radius inside corners round instead of angular ...

I'll go with Noob... as ever.
 

Rwolf

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Noob case is better and closer to gen.
Once you wear the H fact case it will get dark. No one will notice difference in color therefore I choose the better case.

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Btw, I agree with ALE. Noob 360 and H 360 are first clas reps, not super reps...
 

Rwolf

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gen 26K video, just to compare the DLC

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12lurk

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Really don't know which to get the Noob or the H?
Need to decide before QC picks come?
 

Perry

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I have the H watch. Once handled its still way lighter than the Noob factory 360. Noob case has better fit and finish as always but case is too dark. Wait for Noob V2 otherwise you will have a nearly black case 360 rep on your wrist.
 

Perry

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Also the case difference between H factory and gen noone will ever notice. Its a great watch and unlike the Noob case its not nearly black in color. Actually the best scenario would be to wait until the NOOB V2 and hope they fix the case color and dial.
 

Perry

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Also I own the NOOB 026. Its case color is WAYY darker than what you see of the gen 026 in that video. Noob 026 is as close to black as I could imagine. Angus stated that the NOOB 360 case would be the same color as the NOOB 360. Fit and finish of the NOOB watches are great BUT the case color of the 026 and looks like also the noob 360 both make the resulting watch look very UN gen like. The color difference you can see from across the room.
 

Perry

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Judging by past NOOB offerings I am sure that the case in terms of dimensions, CG interior radius cuts is nearly flawless and very gen like. Where the watch goes wrong is case color and dial font thickness/shape. (too thick) However these two aspects of any watch are what those that look at your watch from wrist distance will see..most noticeable. If your looking for a great 1:1 type replication neither watch is there. IF your looking for the best rep 360 that would be less likely to be called out from wrist distance the H factory 360 is the way to go. If you wait for a Noob V2, as I will, hopefully they will correct the case color and dial issues and indeed the resulting watch will be absolutely the way to go.
 

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Just a word on H-fac dials.
There are two H-fac 360 dials.
One V1 that was the first release with a crappy low beat 6497-1 and non-vintage hands.
This is the dial You want. (But not the hands and movement)
Unfortinate it is not made anymore and can only be picked up used.

The other H-factory 360 dial is sometimes refered to as V1.2 and is the one offered now. If you order a H-fac 360 today this is the one you will get (with high beat 6497-2 and vintage hands).
But this V1.2 dial have to thin numbers and are not as good as the V1.

One more remark about both these H-fac dials:
The lume is raised to much on both H-fac dials compared to gen. The gen have a lot more flat lume, a bit like the Noob but those Noob numbers are to wide...

Looks like we never will have a perfect 360, thats why its one of my grail waches :)
 

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I know some folks "cape codded" thier h facs.... I wonder if that would help here.
 

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Just a word on H-fac dials.
There are two H-fac 360 dials.
One V1 that was the first release with a crappy low beat 6497-1 and non-vintage hands.
This is the dial You want. (But not the hands and movement)
Unfortinate it is not made anymore and can only be picked up used.

The other H-factory 360 dial is sometimes refered to as V1.2 and is the one offered now. If you order a H-fac 360 today this is the one you will get (with high beat 6497-2 and vintage hands).
But this V1.2 dial have to thin numbers and are not as good as the V1.

One more remark about both these H-fac dials:
The lume is raised to much on both H-fac dials compared to gen. The gen have a lot more flat lume, a bit like the Noob but those Noob numbers are to wide...

Looks like we never will have a perfect 360, thats why its one of my grail waches :)



I had and just sold an hfac v1. The problem i had with the dial was the "paner ai" on it... Which seems less on the current hfac offering or the noob.

With 390 and 111n dials being pretty good i wonder why this one is so hard.
 

Klockis

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I had and just sold an hfac v1. The problem i had with the dial was the "paner ai" on it... Which seems less on the current hfac offering or the noob.

With 390 and 111n dials being pretty good i wonder why this one is so hard.

You are correct.
Its good on H-fac 390, 367, 41X where they use the larger font.
But on their 000, 005 and 360 with the smaller font the :AI is a bigger problem.
 

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You are correct.
Its good on H-fac 390, 367, 41X where they use the larger font.
But on their 000, 005 and 360 with the smaller font the :AI is a bigger problem.



The hfac v1 dial though is more "paner ai" than the v2 from what i see.
 

Rwolf

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So do you also think hfac in noob case is best?

Or the Kuvarsit V2... http://www.kuvarsitwatch.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=31878

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Just a word on H-fac dials.
There are two H-fac 360 dials.
One V1 that was the first release with a crappy low beat 6497-1 and non-vintage hands.
This is the dial You want. (But not the hands and movement)
Unfortinate it is not made anymore and can only be picked up used.

The other H-factory 360 dial is sometimes refered to as V1.2 and is the one offered now. If you order a H-fac 360 today this is the one you will get (with high beat 6497-2 and vintage hands).
But this V1.2 dial have to thin numbers and are not as good as the V1.

One more remark about both these H-fac dials:
The lume is raised to much on both H-fac dials compared to gen. The gen have a lot more flat lume, a bit like the Noob but those Noob numbers are to wide...

Looks like we never will have a perfect 360, thats why its one of my grail waches :)

This is a very good info

Anyway, I think there are mixed batches with correct dial and Bad hands, correct dial and hands and low beat ... etc.
As a guide, in a H maker, at this moment, you need looking for correct dial (seeing "3" marker) and Pre-V hands

But the most wise statment is NOWADAYS THERE IS NO PERFECT REPLICA OF PAM 360.

ALE
 

Perry

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Its such a shame. That noob 360 with some really slight changes would be magnificent. Perhaps the best rep pam ever. It just takes a lighter colored case and improved, thinner, better shaped dial numbers. I hope Angus reads this info, informs the factory so a v2 can be generated soon.
 

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I had and just sold an hfac v1. The problem i had with the dial was the "paner ai" on it... Which seems less on the current hfac offering or the noob.

With 390 and 111n dials being pretty good i wonder why this one is so hard.


You are right
I had forgot the R AI issue !!
It exists in the H maker watch

ALE