Panda Daytona 116500 GEN VS NOOB, Clean V2, BT V2, Full comparison

[RX7GP]

How good is the btf crystal compared to gen in person? It looks identical on this photo

Very close. You need to zoom closely to see the difference. Gen is a bit clear from edges. Can't tell with naked eye.

Left BTF right gen

 

[samsoniteman]

Very close. You need to zoom closely to see the difference. Gen is a bit clear from edges. Can't tell with naked eye.

Left BTF right gen

Really appreciate you taking the time to take these pictures for the forum!

 

[Emceerice]

You mean BTF v2? Didn’t think a v3 panda was out for BTF.

 

[Tompa]

You mean BTF v2? Didn’t think a v3 panda was out for BTF.

BTF relesed a v3 yes

 

[Blitza]

Very useful comparison. For me overall Clean wins but the crystal needs to be changed

About that ive read gen-prof-deep-clark thats the order of gen to least gen?

 

[marcoxxxx84]

You should, i don't like case of CF also. BTF

Could you pls compare the roundness of non pushers side? I see the btf is squared while gen is rounded

 

[WindJonah]

BTF relesed a v3 yes

Mind if I ask what changes were made from BT V2 to V3?

 

[gpvecchi]

Sure can you mark exact area you want to see from a photo for me

The gen I saw are almost straight in front view, while CF and BT seem too curved.

 

[WindJonah]

What a great review / thread …albeit I still can’t decide between latest Clean and BT! Had all but decided to go for the Clean and replace the crystal (to Deep Crystal), but now wondering whether to simply go for BT and avoid the hassle / potential issues of changing crystal.

Is this a fair summary of the differences between the two (in no particular order)?

BT

• Dial colour cooler / ‘whiter’ / cooler than Gen
• Subdial numbers are too close to the centre [ seems noticeable in most images, but are there sample variations?]
• Subdial rings a little thin?
• Tach markers (on dial next to rehaut) too thin
• 12’oclock font a little too light weight / not quite bold enough
• Daytona font a little bright red (too orange)
• Applied markers – sides maybe either too thin or markers over-filled (could just be lighting / edge profile)
• Lume – slight colour variance compared to dial
• Case shaping / lugs better than Clean V3
• Better pushers (personally, can see much of a difference)?

Clean

• Dial dull / not as bright – is this resolved by changing to deep crystal
• Subdial numbers are still too close to inner (not quite as bad as BT)
• 12’oclock font may be a touch too bold / heavy
• Daytona red font oversaturated and too bold
• Case shape not as good as BT

 

[samsoniteman]

What a great review / thread …albeit I still can’t decide between latest Clean and BT! Had all but decided to go for the Clean and replace the crystal (to Deep Crystal), but now wondering whether to simply go for BT and avoid the hassle / potential issues of changing crystal.

Is this a fair summary of the differences between the two (in no particular order)?

BT

• Dial colour cooler / ‘whiter’ / cooler than Gen
• Subdial numbers are too close to the centre [ seems noticeable in most images, but are there sample variations?]
• Subdial rings a little thin?
• Tach markers (on dial next to rehaut) too thin
• 12’oclock font a little too light weight / not quite bold enough
• Daytona font a little bright red (too orange)
• Applied markers – sides maybe either too thin or markers over-filled (could just be lighting / edge profile)
• Lume – slight colour variance compared to dial
• Case shaping / lugs better than Clean V3
• Better pushers (personally, can see much of a difference)?

Clean

• Dial dull / not as bright – is this resolved by changing to deep crystal
• Subdial numbers are still too close to inner (not quite as bad as BT)
• 12’oclock font may be a touch too bold / heavy
• Daytona red font oversaturated and too bold
• Case shape not as good as BT

I was recently in the same boat as you and as it happens, was able to pick up the latest versions of the Noob Panda and the BT Godzilla from the Sales Forum. I'm by no means an expert but both (noob Panda & BT 'Zilla) look amazing to me. The Godzilla just arrived today and on the wrist, I just cant see how anyone (aside from us here who are obsessed with every little detail lol) would be able to call it out.

Long story short, I dont think you can go wrong w/ either the BT, Clean or noob (tho this one is no longer made). I'd suggest getting the one that is most accessible / available and be done with it. I just enjoying wearing watches and these bring me joy

Good luck man!

 

[Tompa]

I was recently in the same boat as you and as it happens, was able to pick up the latest versions of the Noob Panda and the BT Godzilla from the Sales Forum. I'm by no means an expert but both (noob Panda & BT 'Zilla) look amazing to me. The Godzilla just arrived today and on the wrist, I just cant see how anyone (aside from us here who are obsessed with every little detail lol) would be able to call it out.

Long story short, I dont think you can go wrong w/ either the BT, Clean or noob (tho this one is no longer made). I'd suggest getting the one that is most accessible / available and be done with it. I just enjoying wearing watches and these bring me joy

Good luck man!

Well Said. You cant go wrong with either watch. All reps have flaws. Just enjoy them for what them are

 

[Jan2894]

They are more than close actually, almost same. V3 is amazing work from BTF. If you put in a gen bezel and brush the pushers, nobody can know the difference. They both are in front of me while i'm writing this.

Of course very tiny tiny color difference between gen dial and btf white dial, gen is a bit warmer but you can't see very easily. And subdial numbers a bit more white for gen, only noticable under low light conditions, and only you can notice it if you look so closely and next to gen.

Hi!! May I ask you how do you know it's v3? Thanks!!

 

[RX7GP]

Hi!! May I ask you how do you know it's v3? Thanks!!

Dial

 

[RX7GP]

The gen I saw are almost straight in front view, while CF and BT seem too curved.

You are correct but not noticable with naked eye, very little difference

 

[SHB]

Completely agreed. Been collecting CF Pandas from v1, v1.5, v2 to V3 chasing that perfect Panda. They fix something and they screw up something in return as bait. The thick font and nasty xtal on the v2/v3 was the last straw Bought a BTF v2 and it was so good I stopped chasing.

What about Black dial?

Better go with clean or BT?

 

[Tompa]

What about Black dial?

Better go with clean or BT?

Clean

 

[smokinsvt]

Who sells the BTF V3?

 

[Zees Watchdiary]

Who sells the BTF V3?

I'd like to know the same as cannot seem to find them on the TD sites?

 

[thats_not_funny_guys]

This may have been discussed but I cannot find the post. Is there actually a BTF V3? Some TDs say yes, some no. All say they will get the most up to date model. Trying to make sure I get the most recent/V3 since it seems like the best ay the moment.

 

[Cicciopasta]

Very close. You need to zoom closely to see the difference. Gen is a bit clear from edges. Can't tell with naked eye.

Left BTF right gen

Very difficult choise