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Pam389 Amagnetic Ceramic -[[ QC pics allowed ZFac reps ]]

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I have not info yet enough to get a definitive conclusion
Since it is a new maker we cannot get historical conclusions either.
We need waiting for more inputs before decide about comparisons.
Obviously the decorated movement is an improvement and overall construction and quality seem good
Some flaws in CG (higer hollow) and in L SWISS MADE position (it is higher)
Date fonts thinner and a bit smaller
Hands have variations in the pics on Puretime catalogue and samples showed in Reep Geek by Angus
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=215909

We will see
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Doesn't the PAM 351 come with a tobacco brown dial? The one on Angus website looks black.... like a PAM 312 but cased in titanium....
 

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Doesn't the PAM 351 come with a tobacco brown dial? The one on Angus website looks black.... like a PAM 312 but cased in titanium....

Yes. PAM 351 is with brown dial and Zfac PAM 315 is brown too. Despite of the colour on the pics, it is brown, of course

PAM 315 is like a PAM 312 but, Titanium instead of SS, golden hands instead of chromed, brown dial instead of black and lume colour more creamy instead of greenish...

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I've pulled the trigger. I hope the hype matches the watches quality. Lots of money to be anything else but a super rep.
 

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As did I :) Angus said maker will be releasing very soon on a RG thread....
 

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Zkebam

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Maybe it is the quality of the photo but I am not impressed. I pre-order one but I am not yet convinced.
 

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Must say I've flip flopped over this a few times. First I thought it was horrible, then really nice. Then went off it again. Those pics are very nice actually. I like that the bezel insert is matte rather than a polished finish for sure, the polished CP looks awesome. DW looks a little right justified though.
 

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It looks nice but I am still waiting for hands on reviews before I pull the trigger. Its a very good looking watch, but my biggest pet peeve is a loose bezel, so if the bezel is tight on this then I will pick one up.
 

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It looks nice but I am still waiting for hands on reviews before I pull the trigger. Its a very good looking watch, but my biggest pet peeve is a loose bezel, so if the bezel is tight on this then I will pick one up.


Do you have a standard of just how tight....or do you use that ass in your avatar to gauge it...

Because that is one tight ass !! :)
 

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Do you have a standard of just how tight....or do you use that ass in your avatar to gauge it...

Because that is one tight ass !! :)

Yes, you got it. SO you take the bezel and put it in between the cheeks and check the stiffness....:cheese:

No, what I really mean is how easy the bezel is to turn or if there is resistance (like gen). I've had a few Pam subs (most recently 243 v2's) and the bezels to me were too easy to turn, and when the bezel would rub against my shirt/coat it would spin, same with Breits. Its a pet peeve I have with bezels.
 

PeteM

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Yes, you got it. SO you take the bezel and put it in between the cheeks and check the stiffness....:cheese:

No, what I really mean is how easy the bezel is to turn or if there is resistance (like gen). I've had a few Pam subs (most recently 243 v2's) and the bezels to me were too easy to turn, and when the bezel would rub against my shirt/coat it would spin, same with Breits. Its a pet peeve I have with bezels.


You cant beat a genuine scientific test..... now I will have to order one to test it myself !!

I know what you mean though mate... from the video I think the bezel is reasonably tight but it aint a 60 clicker...

Its a shame about the subdial though .... that was a detail that was easily sorted and avoided ... :(


Overal though its a decent rep OTB .... not sure about the cost but given the inner casing and Amag insert I guess it is to be expected...though I would have been just as happy without the inner casing details and concentrated more on its look and keeping price down.. but that is me...

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You cant beat a genuine scientific test..... now I will have to order one to test it myself !!

I know what you mean though mate... from the video I think the bezel is reasonably tight but it aint a 60 clicker...

Its a shame about the subdial though .... that was a detail that was easily sorted and avoided ... :(

I really dont even care about 60 clicks/120 clicks, I just care about how tight it really is.

Now whats wrong with the subdial?
 

c888

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...sigh all that work and time spent. Didn't they use a gen for sample, possible that there are 2 versions of gen?

Lets hope it's not that obvious under different lighting and not so zoomed in.
 

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Since when have QCs looked anywhere as good as members pics? I reckon this will look great in a weeks time.
 

Drkitch109

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The Gen version also has circles on the sub-dial, although much finer than the circles on the rep. Similar thread on RG with pic posted.
 

PeteM

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The Gen version also has circles on the sub-dial, although much finer than the circles on the rep. Similar thread on RG with pic posted.


Thats correct mate... a guy was kind enough to show a good pic of the concentrics on a gen (other than from an OP cat!! ) which I hadnt been able to find myslef plus he was able to confirm that he had seen them on a gen he had in his hand... so I had to eat my words :)

But as you say they are much finer than on the rep.... however on the wrist I am sure that wont be so noticeable :)