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PAM312 VSF vs PAM1312 ZF???

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Would the 1312 gives you a 'macho' look just like a 312 would ?
Is it considered a dress watch for that new thinness ?
 

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Would the 1312 gives you a 'macho' look just like a 312 would ?
Is it considered a dress watch for that new thinness ?

It's thinner but it's still thicker than a radiomir and still bigger with the lugs sticking out.
 

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sorry does anyone know the lug to lug of 312/1312? thank you
 

teioh3

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Thanks i meant to ask about the distance from top lug to bottom lug. Thank you

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Either one is good IMO. I went with ZF 1312 since I also ordered a VSF 441. But also want the VSF312. In terms of the look of the movement, both have accurate balance wheel location. Just a matter of waiting for official reviews to get them classified on their quality. But I compared both with the gen counterparts, using multiple pics, and they look good.

Just my .02


Hi I am also a newcomer, and i am still learning here, i am really keen to purchase the PAM 1312 with the new 9010 movement with the thinner case as compared to the case of the 312.
However i have been reading up and i'm slightly confused as some say KW = Kuvarsit = V6F ? factory for this version is the best and some say otherwise. And now i see that there is also ZF version.

I would humbly like to hear good honest opinions on which factory makes the closest to gen for PAM 1312. Hope to hear inputs thank you so much!
 

teioh3

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Which movement is better or both a7750 based?

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Zf 1312 i believe is still a7750 but modified to fit the thinner case. The vsf 312 uses a p9000 clone.

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Zf 1312 i believe is still a7750 but modified to fit the thinner case. The vsf 312 uses a p9000 clone.

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Correct, the P.9010 movement used in all PAM1XXX automatic models are just A7750 with the typical balance wheel location @11, with decorative plates installed. The latest P.9000 movement is a clone with the balance wheel located @7 like the gen. The latest V2 P.9001 movement is a clone with the balance wheel located @7 AND gen functions such as 12 hour GMT and independent hour hand movement.
 

teioh3

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Correct, the P.9010 movement used in all PAM1XXX automatic models are just A7750 with the typical balance wheel location @11, with decorative plates installed. The latest P.9000 movement is a clone with the balance wheel located @7 like the gen. The latest V2 P.9001 movement is a clone with the balance wheel located @7 AND gen functions such as 12 hour GMT and independent hour hand movement.
If i were to buy a eta 7750 movement for the p9010, can the decorative plate be transferred?

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ZF Win in Battle


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You're really posting links to that ZF vs Gen comparison everywhere that you can (which needs some description honestly). You work for ZF? :lol:
 

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You're really posting links to that ZF vs Gen comparison everywhere that you can (which needs some description honestly). You work for ZF? :lol:

From Chinese forums to Rwi directly , I just moved it


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From Chinese forums to Rwi directly , I just moved it


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Well you could have put some descriptions like "left is rep, right is gen)" or something like that. It's fine that you copied, but for the benefit of those checking the thread (not everyone knows which one is the rep and the gen although that's a good thing).
 

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Well you could have put some descriptions like "left is rep, right is gen)" or something like that. It's fine that you copied, but for the benefit of those checking the thread (not everyone knows which one is the rep and the gen although that's a good thing).

There's ZF sticker!


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