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PAM1312 Gen VS Rep (ZF) (Note: Pics Heavy!)

DVSZED

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Yes mate ZF on this model, my order is placed :)
I will post a QC post when I have pics from the seller.
 

Maraach

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But the PAM with P9010 I got is thinner than 17.9mm, and I am sure it has a decorated A7750.
Hey mysterio. Indeed you are right. Sorry my statement was confusing. The ZF got pretty damn close with the a7750. Honestly i dont know how they did it - hats off to them. I think they hit the limit with how thin they could get a decorated a7750 which is why its 15.8 not 15.65. As you said though its really noticeable and im really impressed with their results on this watch.

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Maraach

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But the PAM with P9010 I got is thinner than 17.9mm, and I am sure it has a decorated A7750.
Bah what was i on that day. Just reread my post - it makes no sense. What i meant to say is the 9001 was 7.9mm thick (not 17.9mm). The 9010 is 6mm. The a7750 in standard form is 7.9mm. I imagine that ultimately this will make true 1:1's hard and a 42mm (1:1) impossible. The 42mm version slims down to 13.2mm with the same movement. If you add on the 1.9mm of an a7750 you are likely looking at best a 15.1mm watch (mine is 15.6). It wears significantly different than gen.

If panerai made the call to thin the 44mm down again (which they could technically do to 13.2mm as proven with the 42mm) i think that would kill reps for a while until something could be worked out for the movement.

https://monochrome-watches.com/intr...-new-luminor-1950-carbotech-3-days-automatic/

I was lucky enough to get to view a 9010 movement in the flesh and its amazingly thin. Makes you really appreciate the craftsman ship that went into it.

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ALE7575

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Bah what was i on that day. Just reread my post - it makes no sense. What i meant to say is the 9001 was 7.9mm thick (not 17.9mm). The 9010 is 6mm. The a7750 in standard form is 7.9mm. I imagine that ultimately this will make true 1:1's hard and a 42mm (1:1) impossible. The 42mm version slims down to 13.2mm with the same movement. If you add on the 1.9mm of an a7750 you are likely looking at best a 15.1mm watch (mine is 15.6). It wears significantly different than gen.

If panerai made the call to thin the 44mm down again (which they could technically do to 13.2mm as proven with the 42mm) i think that would kill reps for a while until something could be worked out for the movement.

https://monochrome-watches.com/intr...-new-luminor-1950-carbotech-3-days-automatic/

I was lucky enough to get to view a 9010 movement in the flesh and its amazingly thin. Makes you really appreciate the craftsman ship that went into it.

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Thanks for the clarification
It would be interesting you edit the first post indicating you have made corrections by this post, and indicating the link to it

ALE
 

Ganz21

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Are there any differences of digits and inscriptions colors on the dial (REP vs GEN)? It seems to me that the color is a little bit more brownish on the official site's photos.
 

mysterio

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Are there any differences of digits and inscriptions colors on the dial (REP vs GEN)? It seems to me that the color is a little bit more brownish on the official site's photos.

I guess the photos of the actual watch on the first post weren't too convincing for you? :rolleyes: Don't use the images on the official website, they are only photoshopped images and as such are not reliable.
 

Ganz21

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Thank you very much! You have dispelled my doubts!))
 

Maraach

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is this or 312 more accurate?
I'm not sure how there is any doubt on this one. The 1312 is by a long shot if you consider movement as well. Even if the ecru is a slight bit lighter on the rep it still beats the misplaced ecru on the 312 rep dial.

Havent got the gen 1312 but happy to post 1359 pics for reference.

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dan89

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if do not say about accuracy, it's either green or yellow/blue markers you like, thick or thin you like.
 

dan89

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Where @7? It's @11 (frontface) or @1 (backface) if you visualize.
I got a question, how come the movement is @11 in the rep and gen......:sad: in original thread owner.
I thought the gen's movement should be @7
 

mysterio

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Where @7? It's @11 (frontface) or @1 (backface) if you visualize.

It's a generally accepted nomenclature when you say @7 or @11, it refers to its position in reference to the dial. So @7, means if the dial were transparent and you could see through it, you would see the balance wheel at the 7 o'clock position. Same for @11. To differentiate the two automatic movements,

P.9000 - PAM312/328/382/571/508...etc - Balance wheel @7
P.9010 - PAM1312/1359/1523/661....etc - Balance wheel @11
 

matze2506

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Hey everyone,

this is my first post and I am very interested in a 312. I've read the PAM guide and some posts related to the 312. Still I do not know which one to choose. The V6F was recommended in another post. The date appears a bit too brownish/yellowish to me compared to the gen. Please have a look: http://www.intime01.co/panerai/2022-pam312-o-v6f-1-1-best-edition-on-black-leather-strap-p9000.html

So which one is the currently the best choice? I would like to buy it either via puretime or intime.

Thanks a lot!
 

brux

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Interesting,very well done,finaly i can see what people mean,how good is rhis rep,kudos...
 

sge1991

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Just ordered one!! :) I will show you some pictures after receiving it.
 

wintersx866

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I'm really curious, and forgive me if this has already been talked about, but is it possible to darken the Ecru via mods?
 

matze2506

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I also just ordered one and received the QC pics. This is my first rep order. Is somebody willing to also review the QC pics?


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