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PAM1312 Gen VS Rep (ZF) (Note: Pics Heavy!)

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anyone know which is the better of the two Reps ZF or V6??
 

mysterio

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saying now that ZF best version is same as genuine thickness (15.8mm)
http://www.intime01.co/panerai/3214...lack-dial-on-black-leather-strap-zfp9010.html

any other downfalls?? looks the goods to me but I wouldn't have a clue....

Well I wouldn't put it past the factories to make any claim like "1:1", "same like gen" etc. But if the thickness is indeed 15.8mm, the gen is actually 15.65mm so like what [MENTION=111374]Maraach[/MENTION] said, it's 0.15mm thicker. Not that you would be able to discern such a minute difference in thickness but there it is, just the same.

To put things into perspective, the width of the human hair is as much as 0.181mm. So the thickness is off by a hair, literally. :lol:
 

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Well I wouldn't put it past the factories to make any claim like "1:1", "same like gen" etc. But if the thickness is indeed 15.8mm, the gen is actually 15.65mm so like what [MENTION=111374]Maraach[/MENTION] said, it's 0.15mm thicker. Not that you would be able to discern such a minute difference in thickness but there it is, just the same.

To put things into perspective, the width of the human hair is as much as 0.181mm. So the thickness is off by a hair, literally. :lol:
Yes but remember watch folk often walk around with callipers to verify your watch and call you out if its off

;)

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pfdamion876

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This is a great looking rep. Props to ZF for getting all the visual and dimensional specs so close. Will be picking this up.
 

mujidominic

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KW's 1359 seems to have the correct thickness, I'm assuming the same for its 1312?

Though side profile shots still seem a bit chubby

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dan89

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yes it's thinner but the back is not A7750 and is a ST2555. It's weird that ZF says that bought gen and rep this and say that it is same as gen in thickness.
 

dan89

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but then your eyes have to be very sharp to spot these things, on wrist I think definitely not visible. Too minor difference.
 

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If the rep has actually 15,65mm is PERFECT , period.

ALE
 

dan89

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Had edited and updated with some pics and explanation towards the bottom of the first post.
 

dan89

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the thickness seem to be the same according to the pics found (towards bottom of the first post and I cannot vouch how "true" is it)
 

ALE7575

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With the last additions, this post is an interesting, illustrative and useful comparison
Since this is not a review actually made for the OP you cannot get a Review award
But now it deserves an Ouststanding Post award

Congrats
ALE
 

Maraach

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yes it's thinner but the back is not A7750 and is a ST2555. It's weird that ZF says that bought gen and rep this and say that it is same as gen in thickness.
Correct the KW uses the seagull so the movement is off.

What i imagine makes the problem for the factory is that a 7750 without plates is 7.9mm thick. Then gen 9010 is 6mm. The 9001 was 7.9mm. So case will be difficult.

Edited with correct movement sizes as per later post.

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Correct the KW uses the seagull so the movement is off.

What i imagine makes the problem for the factory is that a 7750 without plates is 17.9mm thick. Then gen 9010 is 16mm. The 9001 was 17.9mm. So case will be difficult.

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But the PAM with P9010 I got is thinner than 17.9mm, and I am sure it has a decorated A7750.