PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread

[c888]

The crown gap issue was mentioned before and addressed by KW in this post:


The gap from crown to case can be adjusted by the octagonal screw as below



And the gap can be small or big when setting the screw, same as original one







link to check more
http://www.chrono24....c62jIA76Q%3D%3D

If anyone likes its crown not so close to the case, it can be sent back to factory to readjust, but may take few days more, as it need to be test waterproof again after the adjustment before delivery.

Hope it’s helpful for you.

Best regards,
Amanda

 

[kayabun]

No offense too, but what do I need to stop if I may ask? Do you read ronverhage's post above?

You have all the answers ?

 

[ronverhage]

I do have an answer now...leave Sultan out of this....he was just being nice!


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[silverclaw]

i've tried to adjust that octagonal screw on a ZF bronzo (as well as other PAMs). No hexagonal screwdriver standard size fits the screw, and I don't have the means to use the inside as a grip.

I tried my best to take out the entire tube, and failed badly. Either it's loctited in, or it's just cause I don't have the right tool

If anyone knows more info, that would be awesome.

 

[sanankid]

Ask kw when things cool down.

 

[rolexwatchfan]

I approved my QC's today! Pearl on my piece is just spectacular. Cant wait to slap it on my wrist.
And the wait begins....

 

[Sultan Brunei]

I approved my QC's today! Pearl on my piece is just spectacular. Cant wait to slap it on my wrist.
And the wait begins....

Is the pearl white?

 

[rolexwatchfan]

Is the pearl white?

 

[slaughterer62]

Seems like the perfect watch for you, rolexwatchfan.

 

[btrizzy1]

Spectacular is a bit of an overstatement.

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[vdubpower]

so who is selling the kw version

can someone point out the difference with zf

 

[rolexwatchfan]

Seems like the perfect watch for you, rolexwatchfan.

Very true indeed! I'm hoping to get it before my caribbean islands getaway! Set of straps and Tommy Bahama shirts are ready. :hehehe:

 

[Royale Pearl]

I miss my 382 now lol


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[set2374]

i've tried to adjust that octagonal screw on a ZF bronzo (as well as other PAMs). No hexagonal screwdriver standard size fits the screw, and I don't have the means to use the inside as a grip.

I tried my best to take out the entire tube, and failed badly. Either it's loctited in, or it's just cause I don't have the right tool

If anyone knows more info, that would be awesome.

I have made this adjustment on other pams. The case is design has a typical screw down tube, but then you would be left with a gap between the tube and the case. This hex nut fills this gap and sets the spacing between the crown and case. To adjust the spacing, you have to remove the crown guard and crown/stem. Once those are out of the way, you can adjust that nut by pressing it with your thumb and turning. I don't think you need a special tool, but I would suggest removing the the nut and putting a little silicon grease on outer threads of the tube. Screw the hex nut to your desired depth--but take care not to leave too much space you're going to have an issue with winding and setting time and date. I am frankly not sure why adjusting the hex would effect water resistance--you just have to make sure that the gasket on the bottom of the crown makes good clean contact with the hex screw and you should be fine (use a little silicon grease on that crown gasket as well while you're at it.

 

[thisismynick]

Just got dissapointing QC pic of KW PAM382

Wellwellwell....whaddaya say to this...






Just wondering if that is a KW rep at all....looking at the gen below, the case shape looks completely different?! Maybe this above is just a ZF factory rep that is offered to me as a KW rep?!?

Can anyone from the pros please tell me if this is ZF or KW rep? I mean, I can see myself that this is a crappy unit, but maybe it is the wrong version completely?!

 

[ALE7575]

It is a KW version
I see the issue of a bit raised lever, the rest is not problem for me
The stain is a patina issue that you should solve resetting the patina with a clean by lemon juice or ketchup
Anyway if you don't like the sample ask for another watch

ALE

 

[thisismynick]

It is a KW version
I see the issue of a bit raised lever, the rest is not problem for me
The stain is a patina issue that you should solve resetting the patina with a clean by lemon juice or ketchup
Anyway if you don't like the sample ask for another watch

ALE

Thank you, ALE, for confirming it is KW. I am surprised though, that you don't think the marked dial and bezel markers are crooked?!?

 

[ALE7575]

Thank you, ALE, for confirming it is KW. I am surprised though, that you don't think the marked dial and bezel markers are crooked?!?

Maybe I didn't understood your claim. Are you talking about misalignment between the dial and the bezel markers
I don't think that because the effect is due to the angle of the pic, taken from the right side, and then the markers, which are deeper, seem displaced a bit to the right side.
I think they are perfect, but to be sure ask for a pic completely centered to confirm it

Or maybe you are talking about the markers on dial by themselves and markers on the bezel
The differences are really very little

ALE

 

[thisismynick]

Hmmm...let's keep in mind, this is a rep with a solid 470 USD price tag. So, in my book ...

1) ... the "45" marker on the bezel is too much twisted clockwise...compare it to the "30", or compared to what other PAM382 bezels look like on QC pics...

2) the two lume markers on the dial @12 position are misaligned: the left one is clearly sitting lower than the right one. A lot QC pics of KW PAM382 that are floating around show that KW can do better.

Already spoken with the TD, and without any debate they will offer me another unit. So that's that.

Please don't get me wrong, but frankly, I am somewhat surprised that you think those 2 QC issues are barely noticable?! It'd annoy the hell out of me every time I'd look at the watch, and would completely destroy my joy over it.

(Funny how one can live with some flaws no problem, and others drive one mad. Me, I don't give a lot about the wrong shaped case, but misalignments / asymmetricals drive me completely nuts...)

Maybe I didn't understood your claim. Are you talking about misalignment between the dial and the bezel markers
I don't think that because the effect is due to the angle of the pic, taken from the right side, and then the markers, which are deeper, seem displaced a bit to the right side.
I think they are perfect, but to be sure ask for a pic completely centered to confirm it

Or maybe you are talking about the markers on dial by themselves and markers on the bezel
The differences are really very little

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Hmmm...let's keep in mind, this is a rep with a solid 470 USD price tag. So, in my book ...

1) ... the "45" marker on the bezel is too much twisted clockwise...compare it to the "30", or compared to what other PAM382 bezels look like on QC pics...

2) the two lume markers on the dial @12 position are misaligned: the left one is clearly sitting lower than the right one. A lot QC pics of KW PAM382 that are floating around show that KW can do better.

Already spoken with the TD, and without any debate they will offer me another unit. So that's that.

Please don't get me wrong, but frankly, I am somewhat surprised that you think those 2 QC issues are barely noticable?! It'd annoy the hell out of me every time I'd look at the watch, and would completely destroy my joy over it.

(Funny how one can live with some flaws no problem, and others drive one mad. Me, I don't give a lot about the wrong shaped case, but misalignments / asymmetricals drive me completely nuts...)

YES, let's keep in mind it is a REP of 500USD!! not a gen of 20.000USD!!! This is the point

I'm very picky for reviews but when I'm buying accept I have to accept many things !

I had seen these misalignments from the first time. But I saw too they were really little for a rep (even for a gen.)

The "misalignments" you are talking about are really small as you cam see in the very enlarged (and correctly aligned) pics I am showing below. PLEASE NOTE THE HUGE ENLARGEMENT and the correct alignment with the reference lines and the markers.

I don't want to alarm you but you could get a visually almost "perfect" watch but getting a watch with a movement defect or a bad joint. We are always talking about reps and we should admit some differences.

The dealer has accepted immediately because this is his business and, besides, he will take directly "your" watch for another sale already made without problems

Anyway, the misalignments are there and if you cannot live with them I respect your decision (and your right) about to reject the watch

Good luck next time and thanks for your contribution
ALE