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PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread

PAM1983

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So I got New QC pics. I think I am over it. This batch is not good. The crown has a gap between it and the case.
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Then the cut out on the case for the crown guard has gaps in it.
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uuuggghhh....hate to say that, but mixed fillings:

I know this is your third or fourth try to get a right KW382, all began with the chamfered CG corners, then came the bad painted indexes, and now this, definitely not "the time" to order a KW bronzo now. ...

- I like the homogeneous patina, dial-dw-bezel-markers alignment.
- I do NOT like the CG. I find excesive the gap between crown guard and case. I think that gap, also,makes the lever to rest far away from the case when closed, not nice effect too.

Sorry to add more confusion to you, instead a healthy recomendation.
Breath deep, relax, and take a wise decision, good luck!.


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A few months ago I ordered a RG PAM from KW that suffered from a similar issue, long visible SS crown tube on a RG radiomir case. Even with the crown fully srewed, that nasty silver tube was visible. After rejecting 2 watches (secind was worst) due to also pourly applied defined luminova (blury numerals). A better third one came into scene with a nice lumed/defined dial numerals, however it has same silver tube crown visilble. I then realized that was a batch factory fault. So I accepted it. Once at home I ran into a local watchsmith to see if he can "cut/short" that crown tube. Luckly, he ciuld, it cost me only one week waitting and a very little amout of money. Problem solved.
 

PAM1983

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uuuggghhh....hate to say that, but mixed fillings:

I know this is your third or fourth try to get a right KW382, all began with the chamfered CG corners, then came the bad painted indexes, and now this, definitely not "the time" to order a KW bronzo now. ...

- I like the homogeneous patina, dial-dw-bezel-markers alignment.
- I do NOT like the CG. I find excesive the gap between crown guard and case. I think that gap, also,makes the lever to rest far away from the case when closed, not nice effect too.

Sorry to add more confusion to you, instead a healthy recomendation.
Breath deep, relax, and take a wise decision, good luck!.


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A few months ago I ordered a RG PAM from KW that suffered from a similar issue, long visible SS crown tube on a RG radiomir case. Even with the crown fully srewed, that nasty silver tube was visible. After rejecting 2 watches (secind was worst) due to also pourly applied defined luminova (blury numerals). A better third one came into scene with a nice lumed/defined dial numerals, however it has same silver tube crown visilble. I then realized that was a batch factory fault. So I accepted it. Once at home I ran into a local watchsmith to see if he can "cut/short" that crown tube. Luckly, he ciuld, it cost me only one week waitting and a very little amout of money. Problem solved.


This is watch number 3. Im ok with that. I know Chinese New Year is around the corner next week and any orders wont be received for a few weeks. I rejected this one as well. that gap on the case and the chamfer and the crown just kill it for me. The rest of the watch is totally acceptable for me... in fact I think it is really good.

I am willing to wait for a new batch to come out. If this is still a problem then I will change my order for a different watch. Maybe a Pam507 or a 389 or I will use the money to buy a few a straps from online. I knew I should've ordered the KW Pam382 V3 over the late summer. lol just my luck.
 

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Did you not consider to opt for the ZF version?
V1 was noticeably worse than kw, but the latest v4 pics are not bad at all. It's true we are not 100% positive aboute the bronze composition, but if you really want this model now zf could be the best version atm.
 

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Did you not consider to opt for the ZF version?
V1 was noticeably worse than kw, but the latest v4 pics are not bad at all. It's true we are not 100% positive aboute the bronze composition, but if you really want this model now zf could be the best version atm.


I considered the ZF version 4. something about the watch that just doesn't look right to me. Ill do more research tonight. I just don't understand how this batch of 382 can be so bad with the crown guard being off and the cut out. Not to mention the crown.

I wonder if the person who is in charge of setting the computer to cut out the crown guard space was drunk. lol
 

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Yeah, the most recent kw I have seen are disappointing tbh.
 

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Maybe go with 389 or 508 ceramic if the 4th one is no good too and wait for another 382 batch later on.

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Sorry to hear bro, I rejected 3 watches and accepted the 4th. No chamfered edges but at this point I don't care about that. Everything else was good, I will post some pictures when I get them.

I considered the ZF version 4. something about the watch that just doesn't look right to me. Ill do more research tonight. I just don't understand how this batch of 382 can be so bad with the crown guard being off and the cut out. Not to mention the crown.

I wonder if the person who is in charge of setting the computer to cut out the crown guard space was drunk. lol




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Sorry to hear bro, I rejected 3 watches and accepted the 4th. No chamfered edges but at this point I don't care about that. Everything else was good, I will post some pictures when I get them.






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This is what I accepted.


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Somehow some way some one screwed up on the crown and crown guard.

Yeah, first 3 I rejected was worse, crooked markers, too much ink filled in, bezel not lining up, date window not lining up, and of course the crown guard with terrible cutout and what not, at this point I can live with some minor things that I won't see when i am wearing it. I know this is a rep, I can live with little imperfections here and there.


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Yeah, first 3 I rejected was worse, crooked markers, too much ink filled in, bezel not lining up, date window not lining up, and of course the crown guard with terrible cutout and what not, at this point I can live with some minor things that I won't see when i am wearing it. I know this is a rep, I can live with little imperfections here and there.


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the last watch i posted was damn near perfect... Look at the crown itself. You mean to tell e that his is water tight????????? whats your opinions on this? my TD is telling me that it depends in the lever and where it sits. Im still skeptical of this. Im going to try this last time on whatever i am sent QC wise. After that I am picking a new watch. Maybe a 508 Ceramic or a 569 0r a 389. Haven't decided yet. He did offer me that if i don't like this watch i could ship it back to his European "shop".... My TD has worked hard for me to try to get something I would like. I give him so much props for going above and beyond. Now i am kicking myself in the ass for not getting a 382 back in August last year.

Any suggestions on a replacement watch if this doesn't work out. I already have a stellar Pam571.
 

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the last watch i posted was damn near perfect... Look at the crown itself. You mean to tell e that his is water tight????????? whats your opinions on this? my TD is telling me that it depends in the lever and where it sits. Im still skeptical of this. Im going to try this last time on whatever i am sent QC wise. After that I am picking a new watch. Maybe a 508 Ceramic or a 569 0r a 389. Haven't decided yet. He did offer me that if i don't like this watch i could ship it back to his European "shop".... My TD has worked hard for me to try to get something I would like. I give him so much props for going above and beyond. Now i am kicking myself in the ass for not getting a 382 back in August last year.

Any suggestions on a replacement watch if this doesn't work out. I already have a stellar Pam571.

Yeah, I agree. That does stick out a lot. I got my eyes on 508 Ceramic right now as well. This Pam bug is killing me.
 

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Yeah, I agree. That does stick out a lot. I got my eyes on 508 Ceramic right now as well. This Pam bug is killing me.


Im just not a fan of a black watch. Don't get me wrong the watch his dope. I have a friend that owns the Gen508. Ive tried it on. Its super nice. The colors of the Rep on the dial and hands and pearl are soooooo inconsistent and every TD uses different lighting to take pics in. So you don't really know until you get it,



Same with the 389. The Lume is on and off. all around. the 305 as well. I wish someone would sell me a KW Seagull V3 Pam382. Problem solved LMFAO ................why!!!!! MEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!
 

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So this is the 5th watch. Can't get any better than this for now. I will mod the crown guard myself and post pics. I will also be asking for a newer crown when one comes out to replace this skinnier one. Let me know your thoughts everyone. If I don't like it TD said I can send it back. So I'm going to hopefully love or hate it.
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If that's the best you can get, get it and either live with it or try and mod it.
Good luck :)
 

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So this is the 5th watch. Can't get any better than this for now. I will mod the crown guard myself and post pics. I will also be asking for a newer crown when one comes out to replace this skinnier one. Let me know your thoughts everyone. If I don't like it TD said I can send it back. So I'm going to hopefully love or hate it.
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Pretty much exactly what I am doing. Chamfering can't be too hard and I asked about the fatter crown.


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First if I like it I'm going to give it a ketchup bath as soon as it comes in. The Strap will be replaced with something very unique. Pics hopefully with the next 7 days. Shipping just in time before CNE.


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