P.9010 and PAM661 - first attempts - [****QC pics allowed****]

[shelby1501]

http://watchbus.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3590&extra=page=1

http://watchbus.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3593&extra=page=1

Looks pretty good for first attempt? If jewels were a bit darker in color, it would be so close. Also, case seems thinner than current 1950 44mm models?

 

[nalomb]

Not bad at all -- it does look thinner, but its tough to gauge with the watchbus photos. For some reason I like this one much better than the sub. The first attempts are getting scary good ...

 

[paulvillo]

P.9010 and PAM661 - first attempts

Looks really nice, loved the 661 from the start.

Case looks slightly thinner on the first link, but as far as I'm aware it's just hard to beat gen thickness with a7750s and the likes of it.
Thanks for sharing!

 

[mysterio]

Not bad, based on what I am seeing I would be ready to buy this new rep.

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks shelby for sharing it
Interesting
It seems that the movement is not based on A7750. Isn't it?
We will see the final thickness

ALE

 

[PolonusTM]

According to Joshua/PC the KW's case of 661 is based on the same dimensions as regular 1950 3 day case, which turns to be OK, quote with some part bolded by me:

"The latest Carbotech is the PAM 661. The 2015 version of Panerai’s Carbotech (PAM 616) had the Luminor Submersible style case, which features an external rotating bezel. The new version has the classic Luminor 1950 case, yet it is still fitted with the Submersible style dial."

 

[shelby1501]

Thanks shelby for sharing it
Interesting
It seems that the movement is not based on A7750. Isn't it?
We will see the final thickness

ALE

I believe it's still based on 7750 judging by position of balance wheel? It's good thing that gen has it in that position so reps can be more accurate than P.9000's.

It looks great, not a fan of the model but if they can provide similar accuracy with 676, they can have my money. :thumbsup:

 

[mysterio]

I believe it's still based on 7750 judging by position of balance wheel? It's good thing that gen has it in that position so reps can be more accurate than P.9000's.

It looks great, not a fan of the model but if they can provide similar accuracy with 676, they can have my money. :thumbsup:

It's a totally different proposition with the 676 as it's using a much slimmer case than what the 661 does. Maybe that's what's delaying the release of the rep, the factory has to retool their line to make the slimmer case, assuming the A7750 can fit in to that, being 1.9mm thicker than the gen movement.

 

[shelby1501]

It's a totally different proposition with the 676 as it's using a much slimmer case than what the 661 does. Maybe that's what's delaying the release of the rep, the factory has to retool their line to make the slimmer case, assuming the A7750 can fit in to that, being 1.9mm thicker than the gen movement.

Yeah, I know but I'm still excited about it and confident they will make a good rep from what we can see here with 661. However movement used in 676 should be based on 23j or something like that since it's handwind, not auto.

 

[mysterio]

Yeah, I know but I'm still excited about it and confident they will make a good rep from what we can see here with 661. However movement used in 676 should be based on 23j or something like that since it's handwind, not auto.

Oh right, forgot the Due is a manual wind. That would be the first thing for the factories to try to replicate. The P.1000/10 is very thin at 3.85mm. It's 21J by the way, not 23J.

 

[shelby1501]

Oh right, forgot the Due is a manual wind. That would be the first thing for the factories to try to replicate. The P.1000/10 is very thin at 3.85mm. It's 21J by the way, not 23J.

It actually has attempts but probably not that thin. And most dealers refers to it as 23j, probably something similar to movement in 7 days Portuguese and I believe more reliable than standard 21j which is actually 2813.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...ep-PAM574-from-V6F-KW-****QC-pics-allowed****

http://www.intime.co/panerai/2526-pam574-q-v6f-black-dial-on-green-leather-strap-p2002.html

 

[PolonusTM]

My QC:

 

[gvln]

is the CB titanium?

 

[ALE7575]

I believe it's still based on 7750 judging by position of balance wheel? It's good thing that gen has it in that position so reps can be more accurate than P.9000's.

It looks great, not a fan of the model but if they can provide similar accuracy with 676, they can have my money. :thumbsup:

BW @11 on gen is a good new for the copies
We will see the thickness if the base is finally A7750
Thanks for your inputs
ALE

 

[ALE7575]

[MENTION=28281]PolonusTM[/MENTION]
What about the thickness Polonus ??
Do you think movement is A7750 based?

Thanks in advance
ALE

 

[PolonusTM]

Thickness is as it was with any previous 1950 3 days case. Due to this it can be 7750 - obvious choice.

 

[jembediah]

on ken's website,it says that the movement is a7750

 

[PolonusTM]

is the CB titanium?

Yes

 

[ALE7575]

Thickness is as it was with any previous 1950 3 days case. Due to this it can be 7750 - obvious choice.

on ken's website,it says that the movement is a7750

Therefore the magic is lost
No thin -> no interesting

ALE

 

[jembediah]

Therefore the magic is lost
No thin -> no interesting

ALE

yeah,and i also wonder why dont they just use the A6497 movt for 1950 case? because it's closed caseback and people wont notice whether you manually wind your watch or it is a completely automatic watch