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One Day Late - ZF 116610 LV & LN

GrandmasterChime

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ZF is perfect in pretty much perfect in all aspects. I've been hesitating with the VSF but the "R" misalignment (although supposedly fixed in subsequent batches) and the "not nearly as solid as the ZZF V3" feel confirms my ZF choice. ZZF v3 CGs make it a no go- I'm pulling the trigger...
Bigpoppad How's the bracelet feel compared to ZZF v3 or ARF one's?

At the end puretime ("We might finally be able to answer this question in 2020) and foozoo58 were right said it all along ! ZF seems to be a 2020 Sub winner!

I can only compare the beacelet to zzf v2s which it is far superior in all aspects And i akso have an arf bracelet on my v2s.
compared to the arf it is just as good looking clasp. Beushing is very similar. Inscriptions in yhe clasp are far better on the zf than arf especially the rolex engraving. The click on the beak is firmer on the arf which i would say is better. All in all its a good bracelet didnt feel crap at first like some previous ones have. I did have to loctite all the cmscrews when i received it as a couple were loose and the glidelock was stiff but once i deplasticed it and played with it it was fine
 

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Do you think these hands may be from
ARF producers?


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I havent ever seen arf hands. I said there is slight roughness to the edge of the hands but you can only see it on some photos blown right up. In real life and evfn with a loupe they look really good. The zzf hands are probsbly slightly better under macro but that is really nitpicking. I would assume arf hands would still get the nod but i think they are pretty minor compared to the outstanding dia,l crystal and case. This really does have a very premium feel.
 
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scottiedog

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Helps ppl rationalize their choice. Same with Android vs apple, samsung vs lg etc.
Didn't see it with reps before, in a way a compliment to the factories for uping the level.

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Oh come on. Its Apple and Samsung. Everyone knows that :bolt:
 
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The hands do look very similar to ARF and also the lume appears whiter than the markers in most of the pics. The rest looks premium though unlike the vsf toy watch.


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[mention]Bigpoppad [/mention] made the sells of ZF raising a lot !!!
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i knew the crystal was gen, it's not comparable with any rep crystal.

Look at the halo effect, so glossy, and the depth of the black hole

Like stated earlier, these reps are getting really good, the attention to detail is brilliant. BUT every little detail is just a little bit better on a Gen :) The crystal is something that’s in your face every time you look at your watch, and no rep crystal holds a candle to a gen.

I would never wear a rep without a gen crystal, it would annoy me daily :)
 

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The hands do look very similar to ARF and also the lume appears whiter than the markers in most of the pics. The rest looks premium though unlike the vsf toy watch.


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In what way does the VSF ‘look’ like a toy in comparison?
 

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ZF looks very good!

the crown that does not close properly is the only issue?
 

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In what way does the VSF ‘look’ like a toy in comparison?

I can’t put my finger on it but in hand the vsf looks the part but it doesn’t feel it in the same way a Zzf V2s onwards does(earlier versions didn’t feel premium either). Yes it has a nice black hole effect on the crystal and the shape from lug to cg tip is better but it doesn’t feel premium in hand. The bracelet is tinny and the steel on the clasp bends too easily. I bet the raw case is lighter too than some of the others. I’m going to buy the ZF and judge that too very soon. Can’t decide whether to try an Lv or not. I’ve never liked it really as I’m not a green fan.


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I can’t put my finger on it but in hand the vsf looks the part but it doesn’t feel it in the same way a Zzf V2s onwards does(earlier versions didn’t feel premium either). Yes it has a nice black hole effect on the crystal and the shape from lug to cg tip is better but it doesn’t feel premium in hand. The bracelet is tinny and the steel on the clasp bends too easily. I bet the raw case is lighter too than some of the others. I’m going to buy the ZF and judge that too very soon. Can’t decide whether to try an Lv or not. I’ve never liked it really as I’m not a green fan.


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totally false and you know it !!! Do you work for ZZF?
 

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totally false and you know it !!! Do you work for ZZF?

I don’t work for ZZF and I own both the ZZF V3 LV and the VSF LN. After having them in hand for several days, I too feel something is different with the VSF. Since you don’t really “feel” the case, my bet is that the difference is the quality of the bracelets. And yes I’ve lubricated the VSF bracelet.

NOTE: I am not biased towards any factory. I only care about quality. Don’t care who produces it lol.


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Humour me; stick it in mineral oil for two days, see if it helps.

Been there, done that and got the t-shirt and it’s still tinny rubbish. I sold it due to the massive, huge disappointment! :)


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Tete

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now seriously. I have already said it in other threads as well, it will be a problem of batches or of first units, my VSF bracelet is the best I have, that light sensation I have with the two Arf. If I get a small scale I will think weigh all my bracelets. My Vsf Bracelet is robust and the weight is noticeable.
 
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Been there, done that and got the t-shirt and it’s still tinny rubbish. I sold it due to the massive, huge disappointment! :)


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How strange that your experience is so different to many experienced members. What misfortune!
 

GingerBubba

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Very strange indeed. It seems I’m more experienced then being a rep veteran!

It makes me wonder whether there are indeed different batches as someone suggested. For people who have owned hundreds of reps to say it's great and then for others (equally experienced) to come along and say it's junk is bizarre. There must be an explanation.
 

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It makes me wonder whether there are indeed different batches as someone suggested. For people who have owned hundreds of reps to say it's great and then for others (equally experienced) to come along and say it's junk is bizarre. There must be an explanation.

Expectations play a big part in satisfaction. In my business i always try to under promise, and over deliver.
 
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