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Noob case is 1:1. I have 3 Noob GMT, this is Noob wrapped with SpongeBob insert
That’s nice wow
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NOOB Pepsi GMT 126710 BLRO mini review
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That’s nice wow
guessit
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Noob case is 1:1. I have 3 Noob GMT, this is Noob wrapped with SpongeBob insert
Stunning! How did you get the insert?
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Looks amazing! Just to clarify for folks new to reps, or even old timers who use the term the way I do, the Noob is not "1:1." Normally 1:1 would mean functionally the same, but the Noob has a noticeably different stem height/crown position (and so completely different CG shape) to accommodate the ETA-based movements. A "1:1" case should also take all gen parts, but the Noob case does not without some complicated work. Contrast that with the VRF, which is more traditionally "1:1," even if the finish is nowhere NEAR as gen-like as the Noob.
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I'm staring at the photos in occb2 thread comparing the ARF and VRF, and I really don't see the fat lugs. In fact, no mention was ever made in multiple posts and threads of the ARF GMT having fat lugs like their submariners, and occb2 himself said the ARF case was good, and he preferred the VRF case only because it allows the movement to be screwed down directly to the case instead of using movement tabs.
A pic comparison would be good.
- 12/3/18
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If there's a big difference between the ARF and VRF lugs, I'm not seeing it..
ARF lugs look thinner than the VRF to me. BTW for those who can't tell at a glance the ARF is on the left.
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Echo this.
ARF lugs looks like slightly thinner than VRF, may be from the angle of view.. but not the other way round.
And is obvious that ARF have more accurate (VRF too thin) fonts on insert.
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Lugs are fine on the ARF. The VRF is a little thicker but when the bracelet is on it isn't really noticeable. People realize that these cases are all different correct? Yes they are pressed out and all have roughly the same shape. Rolex uses machinery now to get them all almost perfectly the same and then the QC people will inspect the case and the ones that fail are suppose to be disposed of.
Now ARF and VRF are similar but I would almost bet that most of the case work after the initial making is all done by hand. Just a guess. Lastly the VRF case so far has been a scratch magnet. I just disassembled it today to press a real crystal ring and full bezel assembly and remove the SH3186. So its in parts in the shop.
Now ARF and VRF are similar but I would almost bet that most of the case work after the initial making is all done by hand. Just a guess. Lastly the VRF case so far has been a scratch magnet. I just disassembled it today to press a real crystal ring and full bezel assembly and remove the SH3186. So its in parts in the shop.
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Ok guys, I’ll try to show you what I intend hoping not to go offtopic. When I said ultra fat yes probably I wasn’t really accurate, but I can assure you that the case on the ARF has the wrong curves to it and the photo of both ARF and VFR together shouldn’t be taken as good because it’s not frontal and not capture correctly the state of things. In some photos even the arf sub case looks good. This are just two photos that I have found really quickly and kinda help you to see the difference
this is an ARF QC. Please have a look at the lateral curves of the lugs first, there is no curve, doesn’t the watch looks a bit clumsy? Guys I want to admit it, nothing crazy, ARF is a very good rep. But now let’s have a look at a random VFR QC
As you can see the case makes a small lateral curve. It’s not perfect as it should be but more like gen then ARF.
ARF has this “fabric brand”. They replicate the watches making all of them fat. Nearly every ARF rep is fatter than the original. It’s like a trademark for them. Here we are not talking about a very big mistake like on subs, but definitely there is something wrong about arf case. This comparison is just a random one made in a few minutes with the first two images I have found but it’s really evident for me. Take you time to study all the arf photos and compare lugs and case to Noob (nearly perfect), vrf... you will see that with time you will be able to spot an arf very easily.
Obviously I am not perfect and I never had an arf in my hand to compare for example with my uncle gmt, this would be the definitive confirmation, but I think what I am sayings it’s not so wrong.
this is an ARF QC. Please have a look at the lateral curves of the lugs first, there is no curve, doesn’t the watch looks a bit clumsy? Guys I want to admit it, nothing crazy, ARF is a very good rep. But now let’s have a look at a random VFR QC
As you can see the case makes a small lateral curve. It’s not perfect as it should be but more like gen then ARF.
ARF has this “fabric brand”. They replicate the watches making all of them fat. Nearly every ARF rep is fatter than the original. It’s like a trademark for them. Here we are not talking about a very big mistake like on subs, but definitely there is something wrong about arf case. This comparison is just a random one made in a few minutes with the first two images I have found but it’s really evident for me. Take you time to study all the arf photos and compare lugs and case to Noob (nearly perfect), vrf... you will see that with time you will be able to spot an arf very easily.
Obviously I am not perfect and I never had an arf in my hand to compare for example with my uncle gmt, this would be the definitive confirmation, but I think what I am sayings it’s not so wrong.
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Reposting the above image you can notice how sharp are the noob lugs (that I want to highlight, are really next to perfection) and nicely curved
ARF are not as sharp.
Guys I don’t want to fuel an argue or to criticize the ones who bought an ARF, because it’s a great rep. This was just my idea and contribution and maybe this can be taken as a stimulus to look further in this direction, then everybody can make it’s own idea.
Thank you
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Reposting the above image you can notice how sharp are the noob lugs (that I want to highlight, are really next to perfection) and nicely curved
ARF are not as sharp.
Guys I don’t want to fuel an argue or to criticize the ones who bought an ARF, because it’s a great rep. This was just my idea and contribution and maybe this can be taken as a stimulus to look further in this direction, then everybody can make it’s own idea.
Thank you
Not arguing. LOL. But I think you have it backwards.
I will post a build with a real 116710 case I did. 100% rolex. They even registered it under my name at rolex. The case is very similar to the ARF except the interior machining.
Hands down the edges in the back are sharp. But the lugs outside are not. Subs yes.
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One more thing. The VRF bezel and crystal needs to be ripped off and either go with real or put the ARF on it. The ARF bezel is an exact rep of the real deal. Insert no, I mean bezel. Crystal ring needs help but its better than the VRF crystal ring. You can not fit a real crystal with a real rolex gasket in a VRF with out using an ARF or rolex crystal ring. You would have to reuse the VRF one which is tall and thicker. Then you are stuck using their bezel assembly. Look at the real rolex and the ARF one then look at the VRF. Look at the thickness of the watches. Don't get me wrong. On my build I went with the VRF case. They are both good. Trust me. Only we see these things. Do you really think a rolex owner thinks about how sharp his lugs are or his SEL fitment? I have been a Rolex owner since 2000. I learned more about Rolexes in the last 7 years than I did in the first 13.